3.19 NERFS PREDICTIONS

Build diversity is in a all time low.
So if they nerf something meta into the ground (and some average builds ends up as roadkill along the way) there will not be much left.


Even the playing field, even for trends too. All skills at 2% playability. No more, no less.

& so far not a fan of I win button items, mega flask resist, dreamfeather, or do triple dmg staffs. Overpriced op items, eh, not a fan. Prioritize new ways to influence the skill tree, rather than these 1 punch man items.
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Last edited by RuneLuthien#3437 on Jul 22, 2022, 4:20:58 PM


Nerf Dreamfeather.

You guys told me this wasn't a skill rotation game. That this is a item game. Equating to many item builds right?

Then why does every build on these lists use the same 1 op item for a weapon? Or else the same 1 genre of item per skill. All these builds for smite use the same Dreamfeather sword. Meh. That's not build item diversity. Obviously isn't skill rotation either.

Or I wanted a Spectral Helix pro build that didn't use a claw nor shield. Or maybe I wanted a 1 hand axe & shield. Or 2 hand weapon? Most builds don't tho, they are literally all using 1 claw & 1 shield. Or how about a good fireball dps range without using some triple dmg staff.

I'm getting the assumption that every build has the equivalent to a WoW Artifact Weapon. Which the WoW Artifacts weapons ruined the item builds of WoW. So first WoW garrison hideouts, now WoW Artifacts, the 2 worst features of WoW?

I'm sure spectral helix won't dominate with other weapon genre's anytime soon. Like 2 hand axe helix? Tho I suppose some guy is gonna appear out of the shadows for how he get good dps with a non meta build.

For items: it seems the devs are treating items like a Legendary MTG card, which imo legendary extremely rare op cards are what ruin MTG. If anything I wish MTG had 3 catagorgies of rarity & not a 4th uber tier.

MTG: common, uncommon, rare, and mythic rare. MTG would be a lot better without mythic rares. Mythic rares aren't for the games equality or benefit, they are purely for profit. So no reason POE needs mythic rare items.

Zero meta is the best meta. If your game has a meta means not equal skill list or items.

Why is Scourge Arrow at 500k dps & other skills range to 10 mill? I get its DoT tho still.

Also not of fan of seeing so many builds take eachother's same keystones & routes. Almost makes me not want to share a build as a guide or hope for randomized passives, rolled fair tree radius rings.

It seems 4m dps is the golden zone to scale dps to. For every skill. As best tier.

& yes I know some skills scale way higher than 4 million dps, tho they are ruining the game anyways. By not figuring out the overall scaling, seems to mess with the devs ability to add new stuff. Any op skill or item is going to ruin further development of alternative features for poe.
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Last edited by RuneLuthien#3437 on Jul 22, 2022, 5:11:59 PM


Most of this entire dps ranked page is mostly " Flicker Strike " & " Ice Spear ". Lol nerf those 2 skills like theirs no tomorrow.

With few exceptions for dual strike, power siphon, & barrage. Then dreamfeather smite & str ice crush are 6th place. Tho it's really not the skills fault too much. Most of these op builds have the same theme.

That is 1) Armour adds dmg or 2) Str adds dmg.

Seems the fix is simple, stop making these stat stacker items. My god. Stop.
" Add this stat to boost dmg " so what? everyone spams that stat till they hit 6 billion dps? Who is this game even scaled for? Obviously not for the moderate party player. Nor for the unique build planner who doesn't just face stack.

1) Delete all Armour to dps items.
2) Nerf all Str to dps items.
3) Nerf all Dex to dps items.
4) Nerf all Int to dps items.
5) Delete triple damage items.
6) Why does 3/4ths of every top dps build use a shield, isn't that ironic, the top dps builds get to also use a defensive based item; aka a shield. Overused.

I'm not even gonna use a shield till elitist's use shields less, so no shield builds for 2 years then. Nerf shields. Yes, stat stackers are the problem, so theirs no excuse for them. If they want to stack 1 or 2 stats, then they'll have to do so without these 10mill to 6 billion dps bs gear. Also dishing all your points to 1 stat for a dps boost, isn't even much of a plan from the skill trees view. Its easy to do & the benefits are too op. " All I need is armor for dps & defense ok " " All I need is str to get x10 my dps value, more than every other skill out there " no & no.

This isn't someone making some smart build to get high dps, this is just tons of people abusing 1 item, the same item, per skill. That's not planner's IQ, that's just people copying op item builds.



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Last edited by RuneLuthien#3437 on Jul 22, 2022, 10:15:05 PM
Now that just sounds like someone is jealous

And once again the worst takes I've ever seen on thks forum. Just delete the gear bcd nobody should be able to get higher dps than 200k and struggle to kill white monsters
Last edited by imanubcake#2671 on Jul 22, 2022, 10:39:48 PM
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imanubcake wrote:
Now that just sounds like someone is jealous

And once again the worst takes I've ever seen on thks forum. Just delete the gear bcd nobody should be able to get higher dps than 200k and struggle to kill white monsters


Just delete stackers gear, or nerf. That's not general gear. Was 2 themes listed. Armor to dps & str to dps mainly. Till another form of stacker shows like dex to dps, wasn't listed.

200k? the norm tier 1% would be 4m. for a more equal poe. As some skills are only having people who hit 600k or less with them. So what is the medium of the skills that hit only at best 400k, or skills that hit 6billion? What's the medium?

4m is. I wouldn't allow any skill to go above 10m, till all skills equally hit 4m & are equally trendy at 2%.

If items are to blame, then yes those items get deleted or nerfed. Luckily for POE, it's not many items, only the few that elitist copy paste builds play.

While yes if they reached 10m or more from outsmarting the skill tree, then sure, they deserve 10m. Tho they all didn't. Or their is very few non meta builds. They all attained 10m to 6bill, from abusing the same few items. Also stacker builds are 1 dimensional, you don't need IQ to invest everything to 1 stat.

I'd be fine with 1 item based builds, if their were diversity among them per skill. Tho theirs not, their mainly all betting on the same items to get them another 100m dps. If people were using diff types of weapon genre's per skills, then this would be make some sense. Tho they aren't, their using the same genre per skill, as meta. Even if the skill allows for a few other weapon variations. The meta stays with only 1 out of 4 weapon options. & that's only the same genre they stay to. That's not to mention if the item itself of the genre, is the same item their all using.

Diablo 2 had 1 shots & it wasn't even as extreme as poe is about " use all passivity to boost 1 aspect ". That's why d2's pvp was meh. D2's pvp is running outside act 1 & then dying immediately. No wonder poe pvp would need so much work similarly. Probably more 1 shots than retail WoW has.

Also not jealous of 1 punch man items, anymore than One Punch Man is a joke satire of how anime's shouldn't be.

& not playing this league lol, waiting for next league. Late to the party. I'm jealous I get a break from playing till next league.

Tho from a outsiders view, Mageblood has always sounded stupid, when I heard of it while I was use to play Lost Ark many months ago.

Let the people vote:
Abusing a few weapons
or advancing the skill tree with every league fairly.





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Last edited by RuneLuthien#3437 on Jul 22, 2022, 11:35:02 PM
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imanubcake wrote:
Now that just sounds like someone is jealous

And once again the worst takes I've ever seen on thks forum. Just delete the gear bcd nobody should be able to get higher dps than 200k and struggle to kill white monsters


I don't think he is jealous, but he has proven multiple times now that he's missing the experience and knowledge to properly assess and evaluate given data.
It's like an adolescent in school on his first steps to learn critical thinking, it's a nice try but it simply doesn't work that way.

His propositions and conclusions would, if implemented into the game, kill Path of Exile in less than a month.
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RuneLuthien wrote:
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imanubcake wrote:
Now that just sounds like someone is jealous

And once again the worst takes I've ever seen on thks forum. Just delete the gear bcd nobody should be able to get higher dps than 200k and struggle to kill white monsters


Just delete stackers gear, or nerf. That's not general gear. Was 2 themes listed. Armor to dps & str to dps mainly. Till another form of stacker shows like dex to dps, wasn't listed.

200k? the norm tier 1% would be 4m. for a more equal poe. As some skills are only having people who hit 600k or less with them. So what is the medium of the skills that hit only at best 400k, or skills that hit 6billion? What's the medium?

4m is. I wouldn't allow any skill to go above 10m, till all skills equally hit 4m & are equally trendy at 2%.

If items are to blame, then yes those items get deleted or nerfed. Luckily for POE, it's not many items, only the few that elitist copy paste builds play.

While yes if they reached 10m or more from outsmarting the skill tree, then sure, they deserve 10m. Tho they all didn't. Or their is very few non meta builds. They all attained 10m to 6bill, from abusing the same few items. Also stacker builds are 1 dimensional, you don't need IQ to invest everything to 1 stat.

I'd be fine with 1 item based builds, if their were diversity among them per skill. Tho theirs not, their mainly all betting on the same items to get them another 100m dps. If people were using diff types of weapon genre's per skills, then this would be make some sense. Tho they aren't, their using the same genre per skill, as meta. Even if the skill allows for a few other weapon variations. The meta stays with only 1 out of 4 weapon options. & that's only the same genre they stay to. That's not to mention if the item itself of the genre, is the same item their all using.

Diablo 2 had 1 shots & it wasn't even as extreme as poe is about " use all passivity to boost 1 aspect ". That's why d2's pvp was meh. D2's pvp is running outside act 1 & then dying immediately. No wonder poe pvp would need so much work similarly. Probably more 1 shots than retail WoW has.

Also not jealous of 1 punch man items, anymore than One Punch Man is a joke satire of how anime's shouldn't be.

& not playing this league lol, waiting for next league. Late to the party. I'm jealous I get a break from playing till next league.

Tho from a outsiders view, Mageblood has always sounded stupid, when I heard of it while I was use to play Lost Ark many months ago.

Let the people vote:
Abusing a few weapons
or advancing the skill tree with every league fairly.








Just bring back old poe from 5 years ago with 40000 es passible and all op items pre nerfs)
than it will be 200 ways to make op build not only 5 meta like now
Last edited by real_name_hidden69#7257 on Jul 23, 2022, 2:25:40 AM
Someones just discovered PoENinja apparently do we have to go back through the how to interpret statistics again?

I've seen many threads complaining about specific builds on PoE Ninja but dreamfeather (replica lets get it right here this is armour stacking tat) is a first and its sitting at a ghastly 1% usage my god its almost 1/3rd as ubiquitous as worm jar.

Its frustrating, the point is correct but the data they use is just >< its like trying to make the argument as badly as possible.

We do need more build options though but its impossible these days to measure that kind of thing off Ninja anyway, it needs practical experience.
Last edited by Draegnarrr#2823 on Jul 23, 2022, 4:34:56 AM
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RuneLuthien wrote:

Most of this entire dps ranked page is mostly " Flicker Strike " & " Ice Spear ". Lol nerf those 2 skills like theirs no tomorrow.


Do you even realize the amount of currency required to make Ice Spear endgame viable ?
Do you even realize the amount of currency required to make Ice Spear work WELL ?
Do you REALLY ?!


Because if you did, you wouldn't ask for a nerf. The game needs currency dumps, and CoC builds are exactly that. HUGE currency dumps. They are FAR from being overpowered.

Put 1000ex (because that's what's needed for IceSpear to be comfortable in the endgame) into any skill and see what happens. Sure some will perform better than others, but the only reason as to why people like CoC builds is because the playstyle is enjoyable and fun to them.

You could make you a list of at least 50 skills that perform way better than CoC builds with the same amount of investment.

Please stop spreading false information.
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