Recommendation for Quiet gaming computer that can play POE

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deschanel wrote:

i probably should have accounted for your USD currency but my point still stands, op is asking for one less than $700 id like to see you build that

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I'm in Europe. He asked for under 1000$. That's plenty.

edit: AMD fans are also quiet. Noisiest thing can be gpu but PoE is not that taxing on gpu anyway.

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TorsteinTheFallen wrote:

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deschanel wrote:

i probably should have accounted for your USD currency but my point still stands, op is asking for one less than $700 id like to see you build that

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I'm in Europe. He asked for under 1000$. That's plenty.

and im not in europe.

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Seyi_ogunde wrote:

Anyone have a recommendation for a super quiet gaming rig that's not too expensive and doesn't take up too much space that can play POE without dropping frames?

I currently have an MSI QE62. I freaking hate the thing. It can only play POE when I turn on the fan, which sounds like an airplane. Otherwise I have to play at 800x600 resolution, and I still get dropped frames.

Looking for something less than $1000.

1000$ or equivalent in euros? not possible with new parts

for quiet you need:
a) very large passive cooling (AIO saturates with heat after a while and you NEED active cooling on it anyway) or
b) low power, weak components

c) very good, quality active cooling like Noctua in 14/15cm range but this cooling alone is 100$+ and takes, you guessed it, lots of space, it doesnt fit in many regular cases, there is no chance it is going to fit micro case. this option is out.

then there is the 'small footprint' that contradicts with 'a' and with 'cheap' (as small form PC's are more expensive in general due to low popularity and small selection of components)


you can undertune any modern card with msi afterburner - cut voltages and temp limits to the point card runs at 50% thus being cool, maybe even cool enough to run passively. there are cards that have big enough radiators and (IMPORTANT) METAL backplates to run passively for some time

for CPU.. undervolting is case by case. my cpu overclocks like a charm but doesnt take undervolting almost at all. your might be the same or opposite - it is a lotery. you can cut the performance down - disable turbo boost, HT and many other parts just to make it run slower (and cooler).

but after long session youll inevitably run into thermal throttling.

in general gaming and passive cooling doesnt go well. it is possible but.. not on 1000$ budget, sorry

if passive is out, get a passive card and very quiet active cooling.

once again. small, quiet AIOs are getting heat saturated after a while (depending on how much water there is). if you want 'small box' you wont be able to fit large setup (extra reservoirs are out of the question) and pre-made AIOs are either small and saturate quickly (or are loud) or large and then do not fit into 'small box'

not to mention that good, sound-proof case is expensive, even used because cases age well and 10 year old GOOD case is still good today

if you wanna lookup a good setup you need to some requirement definition first.

which is:

what resolution you wanna run on your monitor
what's the native resolution for your monitor
what's your and your monitors lowest tolerance for the framerate


from that you can select a graphics card.

that defines the min price if you just add the standard prices for other components.

M.2 nvme drive + mobo that supports them + appropriate CPU for the socket
Liquid cooling loop or AIO cooling for GPU/CPU

1. Perception to noise is subjective, as is "quiet".

2. For a relevant advice, it's good to know the current specs of the laptop, or at least the full model name.
For now I can only tell that model QE62 doesn't exist, should be G62. And it appear to have plenty of various modifications.

Speaking in general, it's absolutely possible to build a modern pc in the $1K range. Wouldn't be cutting edge, but sufficiently good. Unlikely if liquid cooling is a must.

OP should specify a lil bit more.

The other way around is to clean the laptop, replace the thermal paste, shove in a SSD if there's none, and call it a day.

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sidtherat wrote:

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Seyi_ogunde wrote:

Anyone have a recommendation for a super quiet gaming rig that's not too expensive and doesn't take up too much space that can play POE without dropping frames?

I currently have an MSI QE62. I freaking hate the thing. It can only play POE when I turn on the fan, which sounds like an airplane. Otherwise I have to play at 800x600 resolution, and I still get dropped frames.

Looking for something less than $1000.

1000$ or equivalent in euros? not possible with new parts

And yet I just specced a build as close to my own (as you can get) through PCPartPicker at $970 (yes it's gone up by $10 in editing), I expect with shopping around you could get it cheaper. My personal computer is 1st gen Ryzen (5 1600). Parts list you can apparently share them (never used the site before): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gdHm9G
If you can afford better GPU that would be the best point to upgrade RTX 2060 would be better (~+$150), more RAM, more SSD... etc. Better off finding a good tech channel on YouTube TBH, I'm comfortable building/speccing PCs but it's only a hobby not what I do for a living. (I sold Cheese... until lockdown.)

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for quiet you need:
a) very large passive cooling (AIO saturates with heat after a while and you NEED active cooling on it anyway) or
b) low power, weak components

c) very good, quality active cooling like Noctua in 14/15cm range but this cooling alone is 100$+ and takes, you guessed it, lots of space, it doesnt fit in many regular cases, there is no chance it is going to fit micro case. this option is out.

For "absolutely silent under all conditions" some of that might be true. For quiet you don't need any of that. The AMD Stock coolers are near silent under normal load (non-overclocked). And most modern GPU aren't much louder even under load.

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then there is the 'small footprint' that contradicts with 'a' and with 'cheap' (as small form PC's are more expensive in general due to low popularity and small selection of components)

If the OP wants to go very small yes it'll cost more, if he just doesn't want a huge PC he can go smaller and use (for the most part) standard components. Personally I'd suggest if he wants really small he'd be better off buying pre-built, as there is less leeway in building your own in a very small form factor. A Midi Tower/Mini Tower with a Micro ATX board and appropriate sized case should however be doable.

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in general gaming and passive cooling doesnt go well. it is possible but.. not on 1000$ budget, sorry

if passive is out, get a passive card and very quiet active cooling.

once again. small, quiet AIOs are getting heat saturated after a while (depending on how much water there is). if you want 'small box' you wont be able to fit large setup (extra reservoirs are out of the question) and pre-made AIOs are either small and saturate quickly (or are loud) or large and then do not fit into 'small box'

not to mention that good, sound-proof case is expensive, even used because cases age well and 10 year old GOOD case is still good today

My current system is:
AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (1st gen Ryzen), stock retail cooling, running on an ASUS B350 board.
16Gb suitably clocked by otherwise fairly generic (Branded Crucial but no heat spreaders/LEDs/etc).
A variety of SSDs totalling about 1.5Tb my OS runs off a 256Gb SSD and the game runs off a different 512Gb SSD (both are reasonably good quality Kingston drives the former at 2.5 runs through SATA the latter through PCIE).
NVidia Geforce GTX 1060 6Gb (Also ASUS a dual pre-overclocked card).
I play on a 4k monitor but running the game at 1440p (as the GPU doesn't really have the grunt for true 4k, frame rate is pretty consistent (I cap it at 60) and it generally runs at around 40+.
Windows 10 Home 64b
Corsair 110Q (it has noise/vibration reduction panels).
The spec mentioned above is as close to this as I could get using all modern parts. You could knock $100 off if you were to use an existing OS/Linux

In general use (like now with no game running) my GPU fan isn't even on. CPU @ ~35c and GPU @ ~45c (system fans (120mm x3) as slow as they can go). Room temp is around 18c.

Playing PoE all the fans spin up a bit and the overall temps go up, CPU @ ~65c GPU @ ~75c, system fans all spin up and are audible. But even then it's not noisy and if you had music on or you play with game sounds you won't be able to hear the system over it. Only two issues I have with stability if occasionally the game freezes and dies (no apparent cause and can be restarted (it's not heat related)) and after very long sessions I lose the ability to join other people's hideouts a relog fixes that.

quiet and 'quiet'

small and 'small'

you absolutely can make a gaming PC on a 1000$ budget, in fact you can go even cheaper

but it being also small and quiet? my definition of quiet is: you can hear HDD working over the noise of all other components (not that I use HDD but as a measurement)

if for one 'quiet' means 'headphones on I cant hear a PC' then sure. for me that is unacceptable. stock coolers.. sure, they got better over the years but i happen to know the recent AMD stock cooler sound and for me it is a hurricane. heck, even Noctua U14 at full is loud and Noctuas are top of the crop

OP should really specify what 'quiet' means to him, same as 'small'.

my gaming PC uses passive PSU, passive 2060 GPU (underclocked so that i can keep it at ~75C without fans under load. the KEY for that is metal backplate to spread the heat), noctua 14D at lowest with RPM reductor (cpu doesnt exceed 70 in cinebench) and variety of SSDs with 6 total 14cm fans and a LARGE case for great flow. that is 'almost quiet' because 6 fans (+2 on cpu) you can definitely hear when you know it is there). that is way over 1000$ and it is still not quiet nor small

so unless we know what OP is after both approaches are ok

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deschanel wrote:

also you should have an SSD for your operating system only, and then put all your games and files on a separate HDD. not only will this make your pc very quiet but it optimizes performance.

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You don't need HDD in modern PC. nvmE SSD like 512 Gb-1 Tb are cheap enough and have enough resource to last for like 5-10 years if you do using it extensively.
And the games should absolutely use SSD, especially Path of Exile.