Hey GGG will you tune down Spectre gem level damage ? 660 Million dps Spectre Summoner inside

PoB: https://pastebin.com/F0Ei0YUB


YT Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FXW25IFwKs


Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/goned4/660_milion_dps_spectre_summoner_is_there/


Getting so much dps with just plain gem levels where mirror tier builds start to struggle getting even close to the dps seems wrong balancing to me.

Im open for general discussion though let me know what you think about.

Edit: While you are at it let balancing devs take a look at Herald of Agony minion damage and gem level scaling.
Last edited by zzang on May 27, 2020, 6:44:22 AM
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Can normal players get that much dps?

NO
Need more brains, exile?
First of all relax :D

This is fun build, slow, and will die very often in real life.

Follow the second build, and if you will adjust it to real life - it will be 45*5 = 240 MDPS with minimum sustainability.

And this build using at least 2-3 mirrors helmet, mirror tier shield, double mirror tier wand, have perfectly rolled jewels.


So in total this build is around 7-8 mirrors costs, for that it has 5 k life, no HH, dying from any random AOE kills, have mediocre damage, spectres can easily die if they will have any DOT effect on them from delirium, and you are crying that spectres are imbalanced?:D

God i love this game and this gamers:D
Nothing wrong with that, mirror tier gear isn't inherently better than anything else our whole concept of mirror tier is within the bounds of a particular item.

So best 2h axe for example, that is almost totally seperate to regular build balance just the fact its a 2h and you are likely using it for a melee skill will severely limit how busted it can be compared to other skills. Will it be better than a disfavour? Sure, will it be better than a herald cuck? Absolutely not.

Spectres themselves have the best min/max potential of minions they are the ones that its most fun to play about with the gear for. I don't really think they were overpowered this league infact they feel just about right. They still outperform for their cost but as you invest in other builds they catch up faster.

as icovex says above for the cost of this build and the fact most life has been dumped out of it i'd be disappointed if it didn't burn a hole in the ground. But i'd rather play my cyclone champ for this league just because it was well rounded :p
Last edited by Draegnarrr on May 27, 2020, 7:19:47 AM
The fact that he didn't even check his gear is embarrassing
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zzang wrote:
PoB: https://pastebin.com/F0Ei0YUB


YT Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FXW25IFwKs


Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/goned4/660_milion_dps_spectre_summoner_is_there/


Getting so much dps with just plain gem levels where mirror tier builds start to struggle getting even close to the dps seems wrong balancing to me.

Im open for general discussion though let me know what you think about.

Edit: While you are at it let balancing devs take a look at Herald of Agony minion damage and gem level scaling.


Did you actually look at the pob you linked? Dude has extremely well optimized setup, just looking at the helm alone, it's bonkers. Also he's quite geared offensively with pretty low ehp, all the flasks effect go to the minion thanks to the belt. Trading off survivability for more offense. It's not getting so much dps from just the gem level itself.
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icovex wrote:



[...] have mediocre damage, spectres can easily die if they will have any DOT effect on them from delirium, and you are crying that spectres are imbalanced?:D

God i love this game and this gamers:D


Okay so 600 milion is medicore damage nowadays?
I know there is Harold build with 1.4 bilion dps but thats beyond reason imbalanced.
I equiped a spectre gem lvl 20 for a juiced up t16 100% delirious map and the life bar didnt even move for spectres.

Gotta love this game and his gamers.

Last edited by zzang on May 27, 2020, 8:54:02 AM
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MasterTBC wrote:
Can normal players get that much dps?

NO


+10 you right , normal player cant even rech 500k , so that should be frustred
Even if it is expensive why should such number exist
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zzang wrote:


Okay so 600 milion is medicore damage nowadays?
I know there is Harold build with 1.4 bilion dps but thats beyond reason imbalanced.
I equiped a spectre gem lvl 20 for a juiced up t16 100% delirious map and the life bar didnt even move for spectres.

Gotta love this game and his gamers.



oh... that's becomes quite funny :D

1. This is "picture" number, not the real one, if you will take care and calculate and track how he has achieved this number, you will see, that around 30% DPS will be gone from the spectres just because you need to consider too much things at one time working simultaneously.

2. With "600M" DPS he has 4k life with 75% resistance, any real juicy map will kill him from 1 random AOE, despite that he is killing everything, he will die from everything.

3. And yes, 600M DPS is mediocre DPS if you consider 8 mirrors build, because for any skill what you want with HH buffs you will have much more damage and your health/Energy pool will be much more larger.

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