Why is Global Chat so toxic? Psychology question.
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In France we have a saying that says:
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" They also have the term "faux-pas" which is extremely helpfull in situations of edgy humor or social misteps. Peace, -Boem- Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
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OP your only tapping the surface of the iceberg that is mental illness. Many disorders include anti social behavior which makes being a functional civil human being a near impossibility. Once upon a time we stuck such in asylums because of the threat we knew they represented to civilization and society as a whole.
Its not some mystery. We are a socially minded civilization. Social and civil are not exactly subtle clues as to the kinds of behaviors we should embrace, and those we should eschew. It has literally been the cause of civil wars including the one in the U.S. in the mid 1800s. Those that clung to the anti social and uncivil attitudes that enslavement and abuse of those you had power over went to war to resist the pressure by society at large to treat all humans decently. [Removed by Support] Last edited by Kane_GGG#0000 on Apr 14, 2020, 12:24:48 AM
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" Yes in our social exchanges sometimes we say to the other beware of the misstep "attention au faux-pas ou attention tu va dérapé" to warn the other not to exceed the limit. | |
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Forum is moderated Hard. In-game chat, not so much. Must be a law thing, I guess?
Off-topic: oh dear, someone is on probation? True_Katharsis. Second-class poe gamer Last edited by pr13st#1040 on Apr 13, 2020, 9:29:28 AM
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" They...err, also stuck a lot of other people in asylums, you know. Like gays, for instance. While plenty of people were rewarded by society for behavior many would consider terrible today. I don't think trying to draw up the past as some sort of model is a good tactic for your argument. Those old asylums are widely regarded to have been a terrible idea by modern psychology. As for suggestion, classic case of the cure being much, much worse than the disease. You just suggested lobotomizing people for possibly off-color remarks on an online chat forum. I'm not sure if it's the people from global who really need to be locked up here... Last edited by Kane_GGG#0000 on Apr 14, 2020, 12:27:17 AM
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" Okay wow! They actually hit him. Didn't see that ever happening, given how long he's been at it. O.o |
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"Oh, I don't post for your benefit. It is indeed abundantly clear that you don't care. "Literally every time you make a racist joke, you are being racist. That's why it's called a racist joke. Perhaps you mean that they don't actually believe the attitudes expressed in the joke. And yes, that does happen. But as you say, the context matters. People are often 'playfully' rude in various ways around friends. In a group you know, you can manage expectations, and have a good understanding of how the things you say will be received. But global chat is not a private party with friends, it's a public space. You're among strangers, and that means the social expectations are different. When you're in public, whether it's going to the shops, attending an evening class, or yes, playing a game with people you don't know, it's normal to adjust your behaviour to account for the fact that it needs to be acceptable to those outside your friend group. Insisting that you for some reason don't need to do that, that you can say whatever shitty things you like and take no responsibility, is not reasonable, it's antisocial. (And if the shitty behaviour is racist behaviour, then this insistence is thus also racist) "Does this act - pretending you're so serious about facts that you issue bizarre challenges to "scientifically prove" anything anyone says, like a very normal person - usually work for you? I ask because saying things like "anybody with half a brain knows that a racist in global chat is in fact not racist" makes it entirely clear up front that you don't actually believe that's important. |
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" As far as i can tell people lack the compasion to forgive socially awkward people for their attempts to get better or learn those "limits". Logic dictates you need to step over a line to learn about them. Having somebody around you that forgives you for that mistake but also strictly makes it obvious you made an error is a godsend. The internet was amazing for this kind of education before identity politics infiltrated it. It's a melting pot of socially inept behavior where people laughed their asses off with those mistakes and where humor was the signal. Just like a comedian touches on dirty lines and makes people aware of errors. Peace, -Boem- Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
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