Scion Love, 3 Ascendancy minus Passives?

So I've always tried to find a reason to play Scion every time I come back to the game but it's just hard to justify. She seems stuck in mediocrity.

I'm curious what other players think about allowing her to pick 3 separate ascendance perks but remove the extra passive points she gains. Too strong? Not enough? Perhaps allow her to pick more than one from each?

Maybe even go further and allow all 3 picks from one tree. This probably wouldn't be an ideal build most the time but it gives her something unique that other classes can't do. You could be a Slayer + Champ + Glad Scion but Something more like Inquis + Pathfinder + Elementalist would probably be more effective. Just something to make her stand out.

To me if feels more in-line with her middle of the tree aspect giving each Scion build more flavor and intended purpose instead of generic passive points.

some builds actually not bad with scion but generally weak...

at least for me, the scion was always something for very specific niche builds. She's kinda jack of all trades. Able to do everything, but nothing really good.

I think it would be nice to remove the marked skills and allow her to reach the ascendancies easily

With 8 ascendancies points, she could reach 4 major nodes like everyone else

Maybe we could even replace the +2 skill point node for a second ascendency from the same class.

This way we could make for example a mix of necromant, ocultist, hyerophant and guardian or other combination of 4 ascendancies

This would make scion really interesting but maybe overpowered except if her ascendancies nodes are nerfed

Or they could just buff the ascendancy nodes.

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CyberWizardB5 wrote:

I think it would be nice to remove the marked skills and allow her to reach the ascendancies easily

With 8 ascendancies points, she could reach 4 major nodes like everyone else

Tis sounds like a reasonable change for me.

I would prefer the scion maintain its amount of skill points..

I completely understand how you might feel that she's not as powerful as other classes however you can start from any characters starting point + her starting point.

by removing those nodes it would allow for starting from 3 starting points which i don't necessarily disagree with but omg she certainly would take quite a leap forward in power and what i would be afraid of here is a nerf to her ascendancy powers as a result later.

The scion from my perspective is not weak as i have made quite a few powerful builds on her using for example Chieftain life leech from totem + other ascendancys for various totem builds and many self casting mages that due to the mingling of ascendancys has allowed me to make builds that were otherwise not possible for any other class.

So i really gotta say PLS NO GGG its gonna result in things that would hurt the scion in the end i think.

^if anyone thinks im wrong feel free to discuss it, i really do love playing and building scions.

scion keystones are watered down vertion of other ascendancys so what ever a scion build can do, a pure build can probably do it better.

keep the current small nodes, instead replace the big nodes with "can pick a keystone from selected ascendancy", this means scion will only get 2 keystones but can mix them and create powerfull combinations.


for instance radiant faith + commander of darkness

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CyberWizardB5 wrote:

I think it would be nice to remove the marked skills and allow her to reach the ascendancies easily

With 8 ascendancies points, she could reach 4 major nodes like everyone else

Maybe we could even replace the +2 skill point node for a second ascendency from the same class.

This way we could make for example a mix of necromant, ocultist, hyerophant and guardian or other combination of 4 ascendancies

This would make scion really interesting but maybe overpowered except if her ascendancies nodes are nerfed

Yes this is a rather simple and elegant method to bring about the idea.
Give her a little more custom and less generic.

I just wana note to some. I don't think Scion is bad. Just mediocre. She is a class but doesn't really feel like one. There just feels like too much generic stats going on. Giving her the ability to select two of a base class makes her stand out. She could pick two diluted Ranger perks with one Duelist which is something others can't do I'm not saying that's the best option but it's the concept I'm hoping for. The resulting combinations might still never be as strong but the variable options would be significant.