Bait-and-switch scams are very easy to minimise, so why haven't you done this already, GGG?

Ok how about this: In diablo 2 you didn't have to check the item to click accept. Here you have to. By your logic the same people who got scammed in Diablo 2 would get scammed here and having to check the item does nothing. How does this make any sense to you?
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Johny_Snow wrote:
Once again assuming the victims are retards who refuse to read information in front of them.

In one case you get a glimpse, in the other it is clearly written in front of you and changes instantly once the seller changes it. Of course it is different.


If the seller changes item it's already a no-go, why normal dude would do that? He just put right item in the trade window, i checked it - it's ok, and then he changes it. Instant cancel and fuck that dude.
Don't try to change the subject. By your logic this system here where you need to hover over an item to accept it does nothing to reduce scams and if we had the old D2 where you can instantly click accept we'd have the same number of scams. Yes or no?
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Johny_Snow wrote:
Ok how about this: In diablo 2 you didn't have to check the item to click accept. Here you have to. By your logic the same people who got scammed in Diablo 2 would get scammed here and having to check the item does nothing. How does this make any sense to you?



Perfect sense. If people do everything to be scammed let them achieve that. There's this logic everywhere in the world, even in things that may cost your life. Red lights say you not to cross the road but nothing physically restricts you from doing this and being killed by a car, the choise is yours. You shouldn't drink bleach, it's written on the bottle, but it perfectly well runs through your mouth into your stomack if you decide to do it.
Ok, so improved visibility will do nothing and stupid people will be stupid. This is a perfectly legit stance too, thankfully not that many people subscribe to it.
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Johny_Snow wrote:
Don't try to change the subject. By your logic this system here where you need to hover over an item to accept it does nothing to reduce scams and if we had the old D2 where you can instantly click accept we'd have the same number of scams. Yes or no?


Ofcourse not the same. Some peope who haven't looked at the item in D2 now look at it cause it's the requirement for trading. And only a little fraction of those people who was scummed in d2 still are too dense and even when they "look" at item in game they do not look at it irl. It's not cureable and is not worth spending resources on.
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Xystre wrote:
I don't roleplay in the internet as alot of strangers here do...

but those people can keep making fun of the scammers and they will not stop, not sure anymore if this is another mocking to the folks who got scammed..

people who got scammed trust on the seller but this game was supposed to have the best community out there.

this doesnt mean GGG can't do anything to improve their trade system by doing something simple as add a number of links to any item.

as the number of players in a community increases it should be expected that the number of scammers also will increase.
no matter how good quality of your community is there will always be bad apples in the bunch.
Trust your mind and strengthen your abilities!
i still dont understand how ppl get scamed like that....
if the seller changes the item the whole trade screen gets red and you cant trade for a very short time,how can you not notice that?
the game forces you to hover over any item you trade and blocks trade if an item is changed after you hovered over it...
either they dont check it right from the start,which means all things like "add a [6l]" etc to the item wont change anything

stuff like timeless jewels or good/bad rolls are harder to see,but normaly you are aware of that when you looked for a specific timeless jewel or an item with extrem good rolls
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ciel289 wrote:
i still dont understand how ppl get scamed like that....
if the seller changes the item the whole trade screen gets red and you cant trade for a very short time,how can you not notice that?
the game forces you to hover over any item you trade and blocks trade if an item is changed after you hovered over it...
either they dont check it right from the start,which means all things like "add a [6l]" etc to the item wont change anything

stuff like timeless jewels or good/bad rolls are harder to see,but normaly you are aware of that when you looked for a specific timeless jewel or an item with extrem good rolls

most of the scams happen at 2nd trade. at first a scammer puts the item buyer requested then cancels the trade and puts the other item asap and accepts the trade. an experienced player can tell this scam by looking at the item price. it should be way cheaper than the average price.
Trust your mind and strengthen your abilities!
Last edited by MrsDeath_ on Jul 11, 2019, 5:32:02 AM
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MrsDeath_ wrote:

as the number of players in a community increases it should be expected that the number of scammers also will increase.
no matter how good quality of your community is there will always be bad apples in the bunch.


Agree on that. There're even people who scam on 1-2c in 200+c trades, like putting 9c stack instead of 10c in the bunch. Or people who instead of 200c put 1ex + some chaos and by the actual course (ex to c) the sum is 2-3c less. They just feel better if they got 2c more even if they have 20ex.

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