Why not have an in-game Auction House?

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

And the last nail into your claim's coffin:

like there were even a first one LMAO

nothing what you wrote make anysense at all.
also,b4 shitposting at least TRY to read a thread that you are "contributing" to,becasue you just look like a total baffon now.

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robmafia wrote:

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

Nope, it's YOU having problems to comprehend capitalism.

Two major factors dictate price - ask and offer.

...what in the hell are you talking about?

i think he meant supply and demand
.. but he was not articulate enough to construct a proper argument.

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

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robmafia wrote:

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

Nope, it's YOU having problems to comprehend capitalism.

Two major factors dictate price - ask and offer.

...what in the hell are you talking about?

i think he meant supply and demand
.. but he was not articulate enough to construct a proper argument.

sure, if all 3 of his keywords were hilariously wrong.

in addition to the above, capitalism -> economics

Let's also utterly forget the current system's issue of constant "Buyer Beware";

Players listing a high price item for a bit less, with high modifier rolls, then trying to pass off the same item, but terrible rolls and ignoring you utterly when you don't fall for it.

In an AH environment, you would get what you pay for. Period. The current system just makes it convoluted and dangerous towards the buyer, typically you want a system that is neither negative towards either the buyer or seller.

Another negative, towards a seller; being forced to stop what you are doing, go to your hideout, dig out the item, invite the person to party, wait for them to load... its just a mess man.

The constant argument of "oh then bots will rule the market" is hilariously pathetic in comparison to the GIANT MOUNTAIN of negatives of the current system, which is also currently controlled by these "bots" people keep mentioning.

I honestly feel like the nay-sayers pining for the current system think the world is flat.

Edit:
I would pay 20 bucks for a stash tab, that I could list items in, that people could just automatically buy from, without interacting with me. There's your selling point for a microtransaction; if I want more things listed, I need more tabs.

lets do it for maps first, may be currency. If the bots kill poe - no harm done.

After Synthesis it has become a pile of steaming crap.

I don't think bots will be any more of an issue than they already are. I'm not proposing anything new that we don't already have via the websites. Certainly, I am NOT suggesting any kind of real money auction interaction of any kind. Simply, that the capacity for auctioning items, which is a vital element of the game, to be put into the game itself proper. Same item search details, same in-game currency based system. Again, funding such a development could be done with cosmetic MTXs for hideout mailboxes.

POE needs this.

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

15 years of korean mmorpg experience here.
AH was implemented and players did choose player interaction over AH almost always.

I don't really see that in the games I've played, I've played pretty much every MMORPG since Everquest. Early games didn't have real auction houses, often they were broken in some way or severely limited by needing special passes. Many early Korean games were often filled with people sitting in town with bots all day spamming deals/sales, the dungeons were all filled with bots farming these items- even with no auction houses.

Is the current AH systems in current MMOs perfect? No, but it's much better than any other system I've seen implemented. There are still instances of "player interaction" in many modern games with auction houses but often only in cases of very rare items. 95% of the crappier items are traded through the AH though, and that's really where most of the problem lies in PoE. Give people the option at least, put transaction fees in there so that people can sell stuff quicker with less hassle for an extra fee. Those that like haggling and interacting would still get the better deals.

Heck yes.. all for an AH. Back when I was still playing wow and got bored with the grind, I’d spend days in the ah.
Simply commodity trading.. buy a few points below average and sell a few points above.. which did mean sometimes you had to hold onto stock for a while..
But that’s where we have the advantage over bots.. we can read the market for the right time, and we can negotiate..

From experience an ah will only sell items at their perceived value. So if you overprice, you won’t sell..
More items will be in circulation because ppl like me who currently don’t bother with trade might just start bothering..
Which will also drop the price of ‘rare’ items.. RNG is funny, what’s rare to you might be common to me and VV..

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鬼殺し wrote:

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Reinhart wrote:

That is exactly what GGG doesn't want. The instant gratification generation will have to learn how to contact players, haggle, and sealing a deal.

You missed 'and learn to speak the same language'. It's impossible to haggle if you don't have a form of mutual communication -- be it verbal, physical, whatever. This is exactly where Pidgin English came from ('Pidgin' being a corruption of 'business').

oh, please. haggling doesn't take any language knowledge, just logic/what should be common sense.

'number currency?'

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Aquatic26 wrote:

I don't think bots will be any more of an issue than they already are. I'm not proposing anything new that we don't already have via the websites. Certainly, I am NOT suggesting any kind of real money auction interaction of any kind. Simply, that the capacity for auctioning items, which is a vital element of the game, to be put into the game itself proper. Same item search details, same in-game currency based system. Again, funding such a development could be done with cosmetic MTXs for hideout mailboxes.

POE needs this.