Hierophants Ruined with Ritual of Awakening Change

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Lifebloom wrote:


Hiero is DEAD


Yeah, yeah. Melee is dead, totems are dead. Go play BV.
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John_Ra wrote:
+3% dmg sounds laughable trade for 1 totem. Its so laughable, you literally loosing 100% dmg from full totem then get overall +12% dmg instead. Eat this, Hiero! Ah! Happy?! No? We have somth else for you!

Now you can place your all 3 totems in one place. For one time. A nice present to every boss to make sure he\she erase em instantly from one hit. Coooooooooooooool.

And thats not even all news!!

Also if you use +totem gem = you
1. Forced to loose 40% dmg for ALL your totems.
2. Forced to swap any useful gem from your limited links removing more dmg.
Just to make you suffer even more from growing weakness.

And even thats not all!
So on top of that. Cherry!
If you want to use totems on gear - get off your weapon from off hand! Use shield! We all know whats shields are not adding so much dmg as weapons, right?

So play defensive, stay low!
Stay out of endgame, Hiero.
Literally

Go have fun in t4 Beach.
Its your maximum realm now. Betrayal viable.


You seriously have no clue how + % MORE DAMAGE multipliers work in this game. You should not speak at all.

Fisrt of all you lose a totem from ascendancy BUT you can craft it in gear = more ascendancies are viable for totems now. That's a win.

Second of all you gain 12% MORE damage (3% MORE for each totem).

If you slowly ready the 2 above statements you will realize that: you lose no + totems and you gain 12% MORE damage.

Christ how can so many of you be so simple minded that you cannot understand these basic things?

"Never argue with an idiot. They will take you down to their level and beat you trough experience."
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Bone2flesh wrote:
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John_Ra wrote:
+3% dmg sounds laughable trade for 1 totem. Its so laughable, you literally loosing 100% dmg from full totem then get overall +12% dmg instead. Eat this, Hiero! Ah! Happy?! No? We have somth else for you!

Now you can place your all 3 totems in one place. For one time. A nice present to every boss to make sure he\she erase em instantly from one hit. Coooooooooooooool.

And thats not even all news!!

Also if you use +totem gem = you
1. Forced to loose 40% dmg for ALL your totems.
2. Forced to swap any useful gem from your limited links removing more dmg.
Just to make you suffer even more from growing weakness.

And even thats not all!
So on top of that. Cherry!
If you want to use totems on gear - get off your weapon from off hand! Use shield! We all know whats shields are not adding so much dmg as weapons, right?

So play defensive, stay low!
Stay out of endgame, Hiero.
Literally

Go have fun in t4 Beach.
Its your maximum realm now. Betrayal viable.


You seriously have no clue how + % MORE DAMAGE multipliers work in this game. You should not speak at all.

Fisrt of all you lose a totem from ascendancy BUT you can craft it in gear = more ascendancies are viable for totems now. That's a win.

Second of all you gain 12% MORE damage (3% MORE for each totem).

If you slowly ready the 2 above statements you will realize that: you lose no + totems and you gain 12% MORE damage.

Christ how can so many of you be so simple minded that you cannot understand these basic things?


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Crafting totem on shield? shield which gives you no dps?
why do i have to use shield at all? i am very happy with my dual wands.
Last edited by Nichelle_GGG#0000 on Dec 4, 2018, 11:14:15 AM
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Bone2flesh wrote:
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John_Ra wrote:
+3% dmg sounds laughable trade for 1 totem. Its so laughable, you literally loosing 100% dmg from full totem then get overall +12% dmg instead. Eat this, Hiero! Ah! Happy?! No? We have somth else for you!

Now you can place your all 3 totems in one place. For one time. A nice present to every boss to make sure he\she erase em instantly from one hit. Coooooooooooooool.

And thats not even all news!!

Also if you use +totem gem = you
1. Forced to loose 40% dmg for ALL your totems.
2. Forced to swap any useful gem from your limited links removing more dmg.
Just to make you suffer even more from growing weakness.

And even thats not all!
So on top of that. Cherry!
If you want to use totems on gear - get off your weapon from off hand! Use shield! We all know whats shields are not adding so much dmg as weapons, right?

So play defensive, stay low!
Stay out of endgame, Hiero.
Literally

Go have fun in t4 Beach.
Its your maximum realm now. Betrayal viable.


You seriously have no clue how + % MORE DAMAGE multipliers work in this game. You should not speak at all.

Fisrt of all you lose a totem from ascendancy BUT you can craft it in gear = more ascendancies are viable for totems now. That's a win.

Second of all you gain 12% MORE damage (3% MORE for each totem).

If you slowly ready the 2 above statements you will realize that: you lose no + totems and you gain 12% MORE damage.

Christ how can so many of you be so simple minded that you cannot understand these basic things?



No, Its you not get it.
12% more damage! How generous for ascendancy node! xD
And you loosing one full dmg totem standing.
Also your totems now like an eggs - all in one bin.

Now I can say too
"Christ how can so many of you be so simple minded that you cannot understand these basic things?"
I will be rolling a Templar as my starter (as I do every league), I will be interested to see how this works out.
~ Please separate the PoE1 and PoE2 forums.
You won't be when the difference between a wand or a shield is 120 base life and +1 totem, the spell damage is fairly comparable your just going to lose some flat and/or cast speed,

but again, +1 totem, better survivability/resists lets you offload gear requirements from other items. Hieros are going to do more damage in 3.5 than they did in 3.4 your just working yourself into a frenzy about nothing.

The Shimmeron nerf ironically was a much bigger deal to your average heiro totem player than this would be even if it was a nerf lol.
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John_Ra wrote:

No, Its you not get it.
12% more damage! How generous for ascendancy node! xD
And you loosing one full dmg totem standing.
Also your totems now like an eggs - all in one bin.

Now I can say too
"Christ how can so many of you be so simple minded that you cannot understand these basic things?"


Please stop. I facepalm so hard I think I will have permament damage to my brain.
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Lifebloom wrote:

Crafting totem on shield? shield which gives you no dps?




You can find some damage on shields. Add that 12% more damage buff and it's not that much worse than a second wand.
Unless you're thinking about ridiculous mirror-tier stat sticks.
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Lifebloom wrote:

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Crafting totem on shield? shield which gives you no dps?
why do i have to use shield at all? i am very happy with my dual wands.


Okay I'll bite:

You complain that you lose a wand in off-hand as DPS increase with being forced to have a shield.

Shields can roll:

- crit with spells
- cast speed
- spell damage
- the chance to use shield charge and get some fortify going
- +1 to totems (:D)

With that comes also the change to Heiro that adds +12% MORE damage.

If you are telling me that a wand (pick any mirror worthy wand) will beat all of the above in terms of DPS you sir are delusional or are ignorant on how this games stat system works.

Not to mention all the other stuff that help your survivability with shields.

In 3 days when the POB stuff comes out you will shallow your words when DPS will be the same of higher on Heiro totem builds.
"Never argue with an idiot. They will take you down to their level and beat you trough experience."
Last edited by Nichelle_GGG#0000 on Dec 4, 2018, 11:15:15 AM
i don't get all that drama, the hiero loose a totem he can now get on a shield. you can now place your totems 2 at a time, so it's a nice QoL/clear speed boost and you get 12-15% more damage on top of it.

i did a GC hiero on bestiary, it was ridicculously strong. with these new changes, it may loose a little bit of dps from not being able to double stat stick, but clear speed will be a lot better.

the only thing ruined in this manifesto was melee builds using off hand stat sticks, hiero are still in a very good spot.
Last edited by Zboublemeteor#3011 on Dec 4, 2018, 11:10:04 AM

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