Unofficial Community PvP Balance (eHLD and eLLD)

The following is a community ruleset aimed at encouraging new players to get into PvP at a lower cost while increasing the number of available builds!

If you want to join the PvP discussion and theory crafting: https://discord.gg/qcMVf8H

Or just post in the forums and there will be plenty of people willing to help!


Rules eHLD - High Level Dueling ( recommend 85+ )

eHLD events will be held in the Permanent Standard League


eHLD RULES



Open Profiles
Unique Equipment Only
No Beneficial Corruptions
No 4 Property Rare Jewels
Each skill may only be linked to 3 support gems + Block Chance Reduction support gem

The Block Chance Reduction support gem does not count towards the 3 support link maximum allowing for 5links if "Block Chance Reduction" support is used.


Banned Items:
Zerphi's last breath
Unique Flasks limited to 1
All Abyss Jewels
Legacy uniques
Farrul's Fur
Fenumus' Weave
Watcher's Eye
Indigon
Xirgil's Crank
Aegis Aurora
Asenath's Chant
Kitava's Thirst
Helm Enchants
Penetration enchant on boots
Atziri's Reflection
Sunblast Cloth Belt
Gloomfang Blue Pearl Amulet
Thousand Teeth Temu
Precursors emblem
Arakaali's Fang

Two Magic Item Allowed
30% Movementspeed Max on boots
No elder/shaper/atlas bases and no legacy rolls


Banned Skills:

Blight
Glacial Cascade
Bear Trap
Minefield
Cluster Trap/Multitrap
Cast When Damage Taken
Cast When Stunned
Cremation
Blade Vortex
Rain of Arrows
Flameblast
Ball Lightning
Toxic Rain
Consecrated Path
Storm Brand
Winter Orb
Frost Wall CANNOT be linked with Spell Cascade support


Banned Ascendancy Nodes:
Flesh Binder - Witch Necromancer


Rules eLLD - Low Level Dueling ( level 28 )

eLLD events will be held in the Temporary Challenge Leagues


eLLD RULES


Open Profiles
Magic/Rare/Unique Equipment Allowed (Rare rules below)
No Beneficial Corruptions
3 supports per skill Maximum
No 4 Property Rare Jewels
No Quality Gems
No Incursion Temple Mods

Banned Items:
All Unique Flasks
All Legacy Items
Poet's Pen
All Abyss Jewels
Watcher's Eye
All Enchants
Tempestuous Steel
Doomfletch
Skin of the Lords
Seven-League Step
Hinekora's Sight
Asenath's Gentle Touch
The Red/Blue/Green Nightmare
Collateral Damage
Abberath's Hooves

Banned Skills:
Volatile Dead
Minefield
Barrage
Blade Vortex
Blast Rain
Blade Flurry
Rain of Arrows
Mirage Archer Support Gem
Molten Shell
Cremation
Flame Blast

Rare Items Rules
+69 to Maximum Life is the highest life allowed on a piece of gear
109% Physical Damage is the maximum Physical Damage that can be on a weapon
Elreon Jewelry cannot have more than 3 mods
No Multi-mod items allowed
No legacy rolls


Please Read


FAQ

21/20 and 20/23 gems count as beneficial corruptions (banned)
Talismans count as beneficial corruptions (banned)
White sockets DO NOT count as beneficial corruptions (allowed)
If the 4th property of your rare jewel is 100% useless to your build you can use it
You cannot bypass the 3 supports per skill rule with items that grants supports
You can use a 6link to obtain three "4links" with clever support choices
When using Curse On Hit support gem you count the linked Curses as Support gems for rules
League Specific items are Legacy Items if not obtainable currently
Legacy master crafts are not banned
An ascended character is not eligible queue into LLD
For LLD Rares Strength or Implicit rolls do not count towards Maximum Life limit
For LLD non Elreon Jewelry have no limit to number of properties
Vaal Skill Gem Variations do NOT count as a beneficial corruption
Players must have an Open Profile during the Event and for one hour after the Event



Keep in mind that these are subject to change

All rules fall under four categories:

Accessibility
Cost Reduction
Balance
Simplicity

More information will be posted as we get closer


Intention
The intention of the rules is to provide new and old pvpers a fair start to get into PvP and understand what PvP could be in PoE. Banning Legacy items and beneficial corruptions is an example of Accesibility, even if there were many PvP builds that did not need those players without access to them immediately can feel that they do not have the tools to even participate. Banning 21 gems is to drastically reduce the cost of experimenting and making sure players do not feel they lose matches because their opponent simply has higher level gems in all their sockets by throwing exalts at the same build. 4links Max is for balance, PvP damage is too high and no one wants competitive PvP in PoE to be two players trying to one shot the other offscreen when the match starts and they do not even see the other player. Simplicity is a double edged sword: there are some great flasks that are not broken in PvP but many that are and an exhaustive detailed list that is 30 pages long of PvP rules will turn off players. It isn't a perfect system but it was what the PvP community could agree on would be a nice way to start.

These rules are new, designed to force veteran PvPers to learn a new Meta, so take the time to learn with them and keep giving us feedback.


Changelog

1

Unban:
Items:
Poet's Pen
Bestiary Items - excluding Farrul's Fur and Fenumus' Weave
Reckless Defense
Glove/Boot enchants - excluding pen on boots

All Unique Flasks - excluding Zerphi and limited to 1 unique flask/character

Skills:
Explosive Arrow
Kinetic Blast
Volatile Dead

Ascendancy Nodes:
Pathfinder - Scion Ascendant
Nature's Boon - Ranger Pathfinder

other:
During an Event, players may NOT use regret orbs to change their passive tree between rounds and or matches for the duration of the Event

Ban:
Items:
Precursors emblem

Skills:
Toxic Rain
Consecrated Path


Modify:
"One Rare Item Allowed (gloves, boots, helm)

Only Resist Suffix Allowed
Only Life/Energy Shield/Evasion/Armour Prefix Allowed
30% Movementspeed Max on boots
No elder/shaper/essence/legacy rolls"

to:
Two Magic Item Allowed
30% Movementspeed Max on boots
No elder/shaper/atlas bases and no legacy rolls

2

Banned:

Skills:
Storm Brand
Winter Orb

Items:
Arakaali's Fang

Last edited by Regisle_ on Jan 15, 2019, 8:34:49 AM
Last bumped on Feb 10, 2019, 5:16:32 PM
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just make sure u dont become the next PT baby
Last edited by Googie337 on Aug 31, 2018, 10:13:09 AM
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Banned Items:
All Unique Flasks
Poet's Pen


What an unjustified list.
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deleted wrote:

Banned Items:
All Unique Flasks
Poet's Pen


What an unjustified list.


Nothing been changed yet it was just to recreate the thread so we can post future rules changes.
Poe Pvp experience
https://youtu.be/Z6eg3aB_V1g?t=302
Precursors emblem
Arakaali's Fang


You still updating list. Good.
Bondisk The Soldier.
IGN : Bondisk, Champion, Vegadisk
Last edited by aliac123 on Feb 10, 2019, 7:49:20 AM
Some thoughts regarding hld items:

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Poet's Pen, Null's Inclination, Asenath's Chant, Mjölner, Cospri's Malice and the Cast on Critical Strike support gem now scale the damage of triggered spells based on the attack time of the triggering attack. They no longer have an 80% damage penalty across all triggered skills.

I think unban Asenath's Chant is ok, poet's pen unban but limit to one.

Kitava's arguable but for the most part unban worthy imo as CWC is not banned and it has same penalty.

Zerphi's can probably be unbanned as both healing and buff are removed upon being hit now so it cannot be used to tank through stuff.

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