So now that PoE has a AAA budget, when will we see AAA production quality?

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suszterpatt wrote:

Remember how pre-launch, Chris kept talking about how much they're ahead of schedule, and how much polish time they have left? And remember how launch day was still a shitshow, how the client now crashes so frequently for some people that it makes the game unplayable, and how there's still dozens of bugs?

All of which is acceptable from a small 100-man indie company. But now that GGG have got endless trunks of cash coming in from Tencent, they can afford to hire some external QA people. Lord knows they need them.

And don't give me that 1k hour expert crap, you don't need to be an expert to know when the game's crashed.

I appreciate that it takes some time to set these things up, but if by the end of the year there isn't a marked drop in bug counts and stability/performance issues, I can only chalk that up to a lack of effort/caring on GGG's part. They ought to have the resources.

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Laskinaama wrote:

Launch went actually really well and the game is pretty stable. Just because you have problems does not mean that too many others has any. FACT is that even the most expencive AAA+++ games wont work perfectly for everyone. Even single player games have problems with crashing and suchs.
The absence of whiny post on forum and reddit tells the tale that the game is working well for the majority of ppl.
Unlike every other league so far i havent heard any of my friends crashing this league or havent myself
Maby look for problems (and fixes) in your end.

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Laskinaama wrote:

Launch went actually really well and the game is pretty stable. Just because you have problems does not mean that too many others has any. FACT is that even the most expencive AAA+++ games wont work perfectly for everyone. Even single player games have problems with crashing and suchs.
The absence of whiny post on forum and reddit tells the tale that the game is working well for the majority of ppl.
Unlike every other league so far i havent heard any of my friends crashing this league or havent myself
Maby look for problems (and fixes) in your end.

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Laskinaama wrote:

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suszterpatt wrote:

Remember how pre-launch, Chris kept talking about how much they're ahead of schedule, and how much polish time they have left? And remember how launch day was still a shitshow, how the client now crashes so frequently for some people that it makes the game unplayable, and how there's still dozens of bugs?

All of which is acceptable from a small 100-man indie company. But now that GGG have got endless trunks of cash coming in from Tencent, they can afford to hire some external QA people. Lord knows they need them.

And don't give me that 1k hour expert crap, you don't need to be an expert to know when the game's crashed.

I appreciate that it takes some time to set these things up, but if by the end of the year there isn't a marked drop in bug counts and stability/performance issues, I can only chalk that up to a lack of effort/caring on GGG's part. They ought to have the resources.

Launch went actually really well and the game is pretty stable. Just because you have problems does not mean that too many others has any. FACT is that even the most expencive AAA+++ games wont work perfectly for everyone. Even single player games have problems with crashing and suchs.
The absence of whiny post on forum and reddit tells the tale that the game is working well for the majority of ppl.
Unlike every other league so far i havent heard any of my friends crashing this league or havent myself
Maby look for problems (and fixes) in your end.

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suszterpatt wrote:

Remember how pre-launch, Chris kept talking about how much they're ahead of schedule, and how much polish time they have left? And remember how launch day was still a shitshow, how the client now crashes so frequently for some people that it makes the game unplayable, and how there's still dozens of bugs?

All of which is acceptable from a small 100-man indie company. But now that GGG have got endless trunks of cash coming in from Tencent, they can afford to hire some external QA people. Lord knows they need them.

And don't give me that 1k hour expert crap, you don't need to be an expert to know when the game's crashed.

I appreciate that it takes some time to set these things up, but if by the end of the year there isn't a marked drop in bug counts and stability/performance issues, I can only chalk that up to a lack of effort/caring on GGG's part. They ought to have the resources.

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

...Even though you cant make a game that will run perfectly on 15-year old PC and look well, or remove 100% crashes/bugs, it doesnt mean you should just "give up" and release such laggy and crashing crap like GGG did.

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Nubatron wrote:

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

...Even though you cant make a game that will run perfectly on 15-year old PC and look well, or remove 100% crashes/bugs, it doesnt mean you should just "give up" and release such laggy and crashing crap like GGG did.

Actually, whether they can or can't make the game run on a 15 year old PC should not be the question -- it's enormous waste of time; especially from an economical sense. The main question is whether they should, which you imply the answer is yes which I adamantly disagree with.

If someone can't afford to upgrade their 15(!) year old PC, do you think they're going to spend any money on this game? That should not be the target audience from a business perspective, or a general game development perspective. I'm not going to say the game runs perfectly, but I have 3 computers, two of which have no business running modern games yet all 3 I can play POE on. I'm not sure I can count my Commodore 64...should they make it work on that? Why does my 35 year old computer not work???? Please make it work on my C64, and send me 7,000 8 inch floppy disks every release.

My day to day PC is running a GTX770. It is a dated card; and my only reason for not upgrading is because it works perfectly fine -- the moment it doesn't I'll drop grand on a new one because game developers should push the envelope, not cater to the lowest common denominator.

(That being said, I do believe performance should be a higher priority for them than it is)

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

Dude, PoE lags even on modern PCs, that's what i meant. And its graphics is kinda simpl, and field of view is small. Why it consumes so much PC resources for that simple picture?

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kuciol wrote:

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

Dude, PoE lags even on modern PCs, that's what i meant. And its graphics is kinda simpl, and field of view is small. Why it consumes so much PC resources for that simple picture?

Because the engine is old, there is only so much that can be done to improve it. Before you ask, there is no option for them to move on newer one. This would require remaking whole game from scratch. You guys have so unrealistic expectations that you will never be satisfied and thats the sad truth about this whole topic.