So now that PoE has a AAA budget, when will we see AAA production quality?

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kuciol wrote:

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jersch_ wrote:

Maybe have a look?
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2154284
Locked after 15 pages and you can find quite some more single report threads.
As for me and a friend of mine we have both had crashes this league when the last leagues all were just working fine, so yea pretty likely its on the players end hence the locked 15 pages thread...

Look at dates. All of them were before hotfix. Its normal after big patch but they claim that they have constant crashes even now. Thats not normal and there must be a reason for it. If it was 100% games fault than most players would experience that, wouldnt you agree?

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jackof8lades wrote:

Again making things up of which you have no knowledge is not a valid argument neither is pulling numbers out of your ass and just loving that you ignore the fact that you insulted ppl for no reason.
Cant get any more clear then that so yes i have shown why i think you are full of shit and very clearly so but deny it all you want i honestly dont care.

And i dont have to prove anything you are the one making claims not me.

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suszterpatt wrote:

1. It's far from normal that a patch should make a game less stable. Maybe we got used to it in case of PoE because GGG had limited resources, but the point of this thread is that that excuse won't fly anymore to justify shoddy patches like this.

2. The hotfix didn't claim to fix all client crashes.

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kuciol wrote:

Ok reality bender, everyone has problems with crashes, hell i crash 20 times every hour but i wont tell anything because i dont want it fixed. Majority of players do it so we can screw with you.

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kuciol wrote:

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suszterpatt wrote:

1. It's far from normal that a patch should make a game less stable. Maybe we got used to it in case of PoE because GGG had limited resources, but the point of this thread is that that excuse won't fly anymore to justify shoddy patches like this.

2. The hotfix didn't claim to fix all client crashes.

This hotfix?

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2151909

or this one?

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2159965

I can clearly see crash fixes there.
You ask for impossible, this happens after big patches in every single game out there and will continue to happen.

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suszterpatt wrote:

I'm pretty sure it hasn't happened after any other major PoE patch, let alone major patches of every single other game.

Stop reaching.

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kuciol wrote:

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suszterpatt wrote:

I'm pretty sure it hasn't happened after any other major PoE patch, let alone major patches of every single other game.

Stop reaching.

Except it did.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2037877
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1938744

For older entries look yourself. This happens every time after major patch.

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suszterpatt wrote:

I was talking about the extent to which people seem to be affected, but let's not quibble because this actually brings us back to my original point.

Moving forward, it's time to hold GGG to a higher standard. There's a practical limit to how much QA they can do on an indie budget (even if the game is massively successful). But with a multibillion dollar giant like Tencent backing them, the sky is the limit. Heck, they might even be getting free QA via Tencent's internal QA dept for the chinese realm.

Long story short, it's not normal for a company to be releasing such shoddy patches when they can easily afford more QA.

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webas wrote:

Yeah but what is production quality, since this has gone very far from real discussion. You guys should only discuss specific things, otherwise its nothing but misunderstanding.