[3.10] From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide

Hey man thanks for the reply. Yea I definitely need to upgrade but I've been pretty poor this league, not even 1 ex drop yet. The belly I 6L and Divined myself, it use to be 33/11.

The int/str requirements are hard to get around while boosting damage but I will try and post update if I can beat Uber Atziri.

Also I made some quick video for this build ,even with my bad gear it's still a fun build cause you have to whirling blades everywhere and not die hehe.



Shaper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaNXAwbJfgw


Deathless Red Elder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39gC76M7nBQ
Last edited by qmoto on Sep 27, 2018, 8:44:55 PM
Hiya, chiming in with another update.

I've opted out of linking bloodlust with anything. I find that with the instant skill changes it's just as easy to keep BL up without inc. duration and CwDT.

Instead, I linked Ancestral Protector with blind and increased critical damage in my Scourge. This makes it so I have a massive army of blinding wolves around me whenever I map or Delve.

Couple this with the Writhing Jar and I have multiple sources of blind on bosses too. It's been working out very well for me!

Thoughts?
I'm still fairly new to the game, but up to running maps (around tier 9-10 now) on standard. This ST guide has been very helpful during the leveling and still is on how to progress further.

Yet, when I compare the PoB close to perfect situation (from the guide) to my current character it's very lacking! The ideal PoB ST get's way over 220k dps with GMP, while my character does not even hit 20k.

Obviously I've been looking at gear updates. When updating specific items it doesn't seem to make huge differences in PoB, but a single 'decent' upgrade will cost me most of my saved up chaos (which is close to a 100).

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/noroot/characters (character snthdd). Are there any easy improvements I missed? Or cheap gear upgrades I should definitely get?

Thanks for the guide!
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Hiya, chiming in with another update.

I've opted out of linking bloodlust with anything. I find that with the instant skill changes it's just as easy to keep BL up without inc. duration and CwDT.

Instead, I linked Ancestral Protector with blind and increased critical damage in my Scourge. This makes it so I have a massive army of blinding wolves around me whenever I map or Delve.

Couple this with the Writhing Jar and I have multiple sources of blind on bosses too. It's been working out very well for me!

Thoughts?


Took me a while to understand why you're talking about bloodlust...
Personally I prefer blood rage to be automated. It's a personal choice. I don't think putting critical damage on the totem really helps. The damage is very low anyway. If you want more damage then try a Vaal ancestral warchief. It's a vaal skill though so you can only use it twice and can't use it with bosses in separate rooms (Izaro, Shaper etc).

Putting blind on the wolves is a good idea. It should increase your survivability combined with enfeeble. I'll add it as an alternative to portal.

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noroot wrote:
I'm still fairly new to the game, but up to running maps (around tier 9-10 now) on standard. This ST guide has been very helpful during the leveling and still is on how to progress further.

Yet, when I compare the PoB close to perfect situation (from the guide) to my current character it's very lacking! The ideal PoB ST get's way over 220k dps with GMP, while my character does not even hit 20k.

Obviously I've been looking at gear updates. When updating specific items it doesn't seem to make huge differences in PoB, but a single 'decent' upgrade will cost me most of my saved up chaos (which is close to a 100).

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/noroot/characters (character snthdd). Are there any easy improvements I missed? Or cheap gear upgrades I should definitely get?

Thanks for the guide!


Two upgrades stand out. A 6L armour and a better amulet. These shouldn't cost much. Just get a 6L with 100+ life and whatever resists you can afford. It's not hard to cap resists on this build.
As for damage you're probably not checking the right boxes on PoB. See mine and check everything necessary in configuration.
From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2077519

Gannicus, God of the Arena – Deathless Uber Elder for Everyone
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2627521
Last edited by Aias_o_Telamonios on Sep 19, 2018, 9:06:44 PM
Thumbs up here

I was really worried about running uber lab with this, but as said as long as you overleech before guantlets you're good. And izaro is easy with slower projectiles
Hi there.
@Aias_o_Telamonios can u check my gear ?
My acc should be open.
I know about rings and amulet (i have a currency - but ppl dont sell any real good on poetrade).
Flasks i buy soon.
Check pls other gear, ty.
Last edited by daiverok on Sep 24, 2018, 11:43:05 AM
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Took me a while to understand why you're talking about bloodlust...
Personally I prefer blood rage to be automated. It's a personal choice. I don't think putting critical damage on the totem really helps. The damage is very low anyway. If you want more damage then try a Vaal ancestral warchief. It's a vaal skill though so you can only use it twice and can't use it with bosses in separate rooms (Izaro, Shaper etc).


Hah, oops! Bloodlust and Blood Rage sound so similar. My bad. I linked the protector with Critical damage because there isn't any better blue link for that slot. I could try and see if I can reroll it to R-G-G or R-G-R to link Ancestral Protector with blind and another debilitator (Withering touch is a good contender, maybe Ice bite, stun, maim?). Wither slows enemies, which could be a nice 'Temporal chains lite' effect to add to our Enfeeble setup.

I'm trying to squeeze the most survivability out of the build by removing a QoL link in favor of more defensible options.
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daiverok wrote:
Hi there.
@Aias_o_Telamonios can u check my gear ?
My acc should be open.
I know about rings and amulet (i have a currency - but ppl dont sell any real good on poetrade).
Flasks i buy soon.
Check pls other gear, ty.


Your gear is pretty nice. Rings, amulet and a Sin's is all you need.

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Took me a while to understand why you're talking about bloodlust...
Personally I prefer blood rage to be automated. It's a personal choice. I don't think putting critical damage on the totem really helps. The damage is very low anyway. If you want more damage then try a Vaal ancestral warchief. It's a vaal skill though so you can only use it twice and can't use it with bosses in separate rooms (Izaro, Shaper etc).


Hah, oops! Bloodlust and Blood Rage sound so similar. My bad. I linked the protector with Critical damage because there isn't any better blue link for that slot. I could try and see if I can reroll it to R-G-G or R-G-R to link Ancestral Protector with blind and another debilitator (Withering touch is a good contender, maybe Ice bite, stun, maim?). Wither slows enemies, which could be a nice 'Temporal chains lite' effect to add to our Enfeeble setup.

I'm trying to squeeze the most survivability out of the build by removing a QoL link in favor of more defensible options.


I suppose withering touch would work. I've never used it though so I don't know how well. As an added bonus it also increases our chaos damage. We already maim, no point in adding it to the totem and stun is useless without massive hits.
From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2077519

Gannicus, God of the Arena – Deathless Uber Elder for Everyone
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2627521
Hi really enjoying the build :) Only question is why are we not using Cherrubim's Maleficence? gives more flat armor and es 80% chaos damage, 100 max life and 100% increased leech. do you think its any good or is belly or a good rare better?
The real question is why would you want to use that armour ? It's completely useless to us.

Increased chaos damage: 25% of our damage is chaos but that comes only from flasks. The offered increase here is tiny. In my case it's 2% total! And that's with flasks up. Obviously without them it's 0%.

Armour: Completely useless, we're evasion based.

Life: Too little. You lose 500 life compared to a Belly. Even a crappy 1c rare armour can have more.

Increased life leeched: Completely useless. We have huge leech. About 30 times our cap. Increasing it further yields no benefits without increasing the cap.

The only good thing about that armour is the high EV. But you can get 2,5K from a 2c rare.

Even a 1 alch Hyrri's Ire gives more damage and EV than that.
From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2077519

Gannicus, God of the Arena – Deathless Uber Elder for Everyone
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2627521
Last edited by Aias_o_Telamonios on Sep 25, 2018, 9:24:27 PM

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