Does shock mechanic give it an exponential effect?

Hello,

I'm wondering about Oriath's shock mechanic: shock makes your hits deal increased damage, also, shock effect power is based on the damage done, so, provided you can keep a monster shocked at all times, will shock effect naturally increase in power until it reaches its cap of 50% extra damage taken?

In other words, what damage is shock effect based on? (final damage? sth prior to that?)



In an example: my character deals 100-100 lightning damage to a monster that has 10,000 hp.
I have 100% shock chance and I'm keeping the attacks on it flowing.

If I understand correctly using the gamepedia, damage taken by that monster equals to 1% of its life, shocking it for an additional 5% damage taken (or so?).

So:

- My next hit on that monster will deal 100 damage (newly applying a shock effect (5%)) + 5 extra damage received by that monster, because it is shocked.

Or:

- My next hit on that monster will deal 100 damage + 5 extra damage (because it is shocked), newly applying a stronger shock effect, based on 105 damage done, increasing the damage it takes by 5.25% (or so?).



Please, which is right?

Many thanks!
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How is that an exponential effect? But yes, as far as I know, shock effect builds up like that over time if you manage to constantly shock a target.
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Note it is still capped at 50% increased damage taken for hits that deal 10% of max monster life.
And worst change is putting almost all bosses in new version of maps into fucking small areas, where you can't kite well or dodge stuff. What a terrible idiot invented that I want say to him: dude flick you, seriously flick you very much.
I'll piggyback on this thread: is there a threshold to shock, or does it work like ignite? If I deal 1 lightning damage, will shock still apply (assuming the crit and/or shock proc)?

Asking for obvious reasons:

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Last edited by Perq on Sep 18, 2017, 4:29:56 AM
Thanks zagibu!

The thing's not exponential indeed, I misunderstood that: it's inversely exponential.
Things all make sense now. =)



@Perq Gamepedia says shock always lasts 2 seconds, applying a shock effect of power down to 0% increased damage taken, at 0 lightning damage inflicted.

Unless I have it wrong, 1 -shocking- lightning damage will always inflict a 2 seconds shock. (tho the buff effect will be absolutely useless, unless you mean to use it otherwise (procing herald, etc)).
Ye, I'm mainly talking about proccing stuff. It was a big problem when you tried to make anything that relied on shocking stuff. It was all good when you were plowing through trash, but once you reached the boss all your investment into those mechanics goes to shit.
If it does indeed shock no matter what, then I might have some build ideas in mind. :-)
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0% Increased Damage Taken is no Increased Damage Taken at all, same way that a zero-Damage Ignite does not Ignite anything.
If you math it out you get diminishing returns on the increase it goes like 20% bonus > 25% bonus > 27.5% bonus > 28.2 bonus etc, if your build can get to 50% shock on your target you'll do it in 2-3 hits which means your probably starting at high 30s low 40s anyway.
I can (sadly) confirm that there is a threshold at which shock does not proc, meaning you cannot proc effects with some (little) added damage.

I'd assume it rounds down the % increased damage taken, and you need at least 1% for it to proc.
That would mean you need to do at least 0,2% of hp with lightning damage with a single hit for 1% increase. That said, it is highly unlikely.
So, this is only a speculation as the threshold might be at 5% or 10%. Need confirmation here.
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