Does anyone else find the ES nerf tears amusing?

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MonstaMunch wrote:

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If you go ES you accept the fact you're literally made out of paper

I'm would be genuinely interested to know what you think the word "literally" means.

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The thing is you can't. If you go ES you accept the fact you're literally made out of paper. And that's why people offset the lack of defenses with as much of a health pool they can muster. If GGG makes the health pools equivalent, then what's the point of having two distinct pools?

They have not at all thought this thru. Like at all.

They haven't thought it through, or you didn't read it and do the math? If you go all out ES you still end up with a 30% bigger pool than if you go all out life. The idea is to make them equivalent in usefulness, not identical in value. The changes sound like exactly what was needed.

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bhavv wrote:

You kind of also have 0 armour if you go all ES, kind of the main reason for why ES has always had bigger numbers because it replaces both life and armour on gear.

Its also technically not an alternative to life, its an alternative defense to armour.

Let's not pretend that GGG didn't add a ton of new options for defense. People are just too lazy to utilize what they get and rather complain instead.

There's a reason why Cobalt Grand Spectrum jewels exist (also, there's Aegis *hint hint*). If you are the kind of person who just invests into DPS jewels instead and then complain that you lack Armour, then you really should stop talking about it.

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bhavv wrote:

You kind of also have 0 armour if you go all ES, kind of the main reason for why ES has always had bigger numbers because it replaces both life and armour on gear.

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Its also technically not an alternative to life, its an alternative defense to armour.

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bhavv wrote:

And if youre the kind of person that doesnt even play SSF, you should maybe stop talking period.

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MonstaMunch wrote:

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An additional 1.5-2K health pool does not offset the immense downside of ES (no flasks, no VP, no physical mitigation, no regen, no stun mitigation and inability to handle bleed/poison).

Again, just nerfing the pool is dumb and it's leech is dumb.

Assuming your life and es numbers in the bit I didn't quote are correct (and they aren't, but that's a separate issue), you're still wrong.

- No flasks? You're being melodramatic, you meant to say no life flasks. Given that they aren't nerfing faster start of es regen, I don't see why that would be a problem.

- No phys mitigation? Do basalt flasks, endurance charges, fortify and armor not exist for people with es? You already saved yourself a flask slot afterall ;)

- No regen? Did you miss the bit where Zealot's Oath isn't getting touched?

- No stun mitigation? There is stun mitigation everywhere, just people consider it worthless (then complain about getting stunned all the time).

- Inability to handle bleed/poison in what sense? Poison is chaos, which CI is immune to, what is there to handle? For bleed just use a flask like everyone else (a lot of life based chars carry one too).

Next?

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CI =/= ES. Makes everything you say pretty irrelevant when you don't know the difference between the two. Gee what are LL builds? I always pick up CI with my Shavs like duh....

Lol.

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MonstaMunch wrote:

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bhavv wrote:

You kind of also have 0 armour if you go all ES, kind of the main reason for why ES has always had bigger numbers because it replaces both life and armour on gear.

Disagree. People often ignore armor with ES but there is no need to. You can get 12-15k es while getting a decent amount of armor at the same time.

Spoiler

Additionally, given that you aren't using any flask slots for life, there's no reason not to take a granite and a basalt.

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Its also technically not an alternative to life, its an alternative defense to armour.

Except armor does nothing for ele damage and ES works as a buffer against it in exactly the same way as life. It should be as you described, but isn't.

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bhavv wrote:

And if youre the kind of person that doesnt even play SSF, you should maybe stop talking period.

I only play HC SSF but it has been made abundantly clear that the game isn't designed or balanced for it, and that's something I (and you) knew going in to it.

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bhavv wrote:

How do you only play HC SSF when you linked two god tier items from regular HC which Im 100% you purchased not self found hmm?

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Do you honestly expect every player in the game to self find / craft items like the ones you just linked?

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Obvious liar / hypocrite spotted. Please use more effort next time.

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bhavv wrote:

So explain again how easy it is to build armour and ES with items such as the ones you posted without trading.

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bhavv wrote:

So explain again how easy it is to build armour and ES with items such as the ones you posted without trading.

* Lots of time spent grinding

* Learning how to craft

* RNG

He never stated it was easy. You are obsessed with the word easy. If you want an easy game, make your own with insane drop rates that make no sense.