Is 3.0 gonna be all-summoners-all-the-time?

Reading these changes seem opee AF. Not that summoners are bad now - if you go to necro forums plenty do shaper and highest contents right now but I think even moreso come patch. I think people just dont like the play style so GGG is buffing it to attract more to play it not that its under powered.

They're fucking terrible right now like the ONLY reason why there even viable right now are two things the golem jewel which is expensive af and poison animate weapon's minions anything poison really other then that there SO FUCKING B A D.

Oh and SRS is decent too even if there stupid as well.

The minion damage is probably to bump up the lost power of minions after double dipping poison is fixed

How bout these Cannibal Fire-Eaters scepters?

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1814091

but they did not do much to the A.I. as of yet so summoners are still going to have issues. They just got to make the minions more aggressive and give them a small boost in movement speed.

While I think some people might flock to summoner type builds, I doubt it will blow up that much. Most people don't want to deal with AI minions doing all the work for you. People would rather feel more in control.

I don't see summoners ever being a super-popular meta class, for two simple reasons:

- a ton of micromanagement to play them - most players, myself included, dislike that
- most ARPG players want their character to feel powerful, not a puppet master with power by proxy

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bionicg2040 wrote:

but they did not do much to the A.I. as of yet so summoners are still going to have issues. They just got to make the minions more aggressive and give them a small boost in movement speed.

A fair point, that's the major issue with minions. Not so much the damage or clear speed potential of these builds.
Anytime I start a zombie/skellie summoner, I give up at around lvl 30 out of sheer frustration. You can stay afk with crowd of zombies surrounding you, and if you get attacked by a mob, fuckers just watch. In a fight, they don't even try to defend you if the aggro is on you.
Not to mention AI of golems without the gem.

It's safe to say PoE has the worst minion AI of all the aRPGs I've played or know about.
Without this being changed, summoners will revolve around srs, animate weapon, and whatnot, but not the classic summoner setup.

I think people trying to claim summoners are bad are summoner players playing themselves fishing for buffs. Summoners are very powerful now imo. Zombies are really strong.

Summoners can do endgame content, nowhere near as reliably or efficiently as other endgame builds.

These changes are just bringing summoners up to par somewhat, but they will still be slower than other meta builds which is fine, its a play-style choice. Some long overdue QoL changes coming is nice.

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Atech2 wrote:

I think people trying to claim summoners are bad are summoner players playing themselves fishing for buffs. Summoners are very powerful now imo. Zombies are really strong.

they hit hard sure. vs a target they have to find, run up to and take a swing at.

By the time they do that, a meta build is already 2 screens away. Not to mention endgame bosses just need to sneeze in their general direction. Imagine if the popular meta builds were forced to unequip their weapons each time the boss looked at them? pretty inconvenient. that what having to resummon stuff is like, *IF* you can resummon it.