#MakeBladefallRelevantAgain???? Wither CWC Bladefall Pathfinder

Everyone plays poison. Everyone plays Blade Flurry or Blade Vortex Poison. How about bringing some Bladefall to the table. Bladefall is undoubtedly the weakest of the 3 blade skills in the game (basically instead of a MORE multiplier it has a LESS multiplier in its damage mechanic).

So far I'm clearing through contents at reasonable rate, under medium sized budget. Did all breach lords at respective level (Tul, Esh, Xoph at around 71-72, Uul Netol at 75 and Chayula at 80-81). Minotaur and Phoenix are not hard however I haven't tried the 2 poison immune guardian yet.

How build works:

Wither Cast While Channeling Bladefall with added chaos scaling. If you have seen Wither CWC Firestorm then this is similar.

Leech using


I added Herald of Thunder to support Vinktar with more leech and make way for future dual curse with Curse on hit Herald.

How to play:

Piano flasks, cast Abyssal Cry (for Graphical satisfaction and completely not needed) then cast wither and watch bladefall kill things. However because of a delay in CWC mechanic, it is not advised to jump directly into mob packs, unless you have good ES buffer (around 7k or more) or you will die before spell hits the ground depends on map tier and map mods.

Item



I use Obliteration for the cheap easy map clear solution. Even better dual wield but I think 1 is enough.
Beast Fur Shawl I use for the AOE as well as a small damage boost. Replace with a 700+ es chest and going for more dps on the skill tree is an alternative.
Eye of Chayula for Stun immunity.
Mings Heart is damage boost given only sacrificing 15% reduced ES multiplier that is easily covered on the skill tree.
Helmet Enchant is cheap and goes a long way. I bought mine for 15c.
I will probably try swapping in Scourge to see if it is superior in single dps compare to the wand.
Flask includes:

Basically bread and butter pathfinder poison CI flasks. The most expensive being Sin's Rebirth and is only needed for endgame scenario (talking Chayula, uber atziri, guardians etc).
Vinkter and Taste of Hate are also optional but are affordable at this point in the league.




Gem links and such:
Spoiler

For Cast while Channeling to work effectively, you need at least a 5 link.
On a 6 link it should be
Wither + Bladefall + Cast While Channeling + inc aoe/conc effect + added chaos +Void Manipulation.
Simply remove Void Manipulation on a 5l but that also greatly decrease the damage.
Note that I am using a level 1 wither to remove any mana issues.

Abyssal Cry set up (3l or 4l depends on your taste)
Abyssal Cry + Inc AOE + Void Manipulation + Inc duration (inc duration is optional if you want a 4l setup)

Aura setup:
Discipline + Vulnerability + Blasphemy + Enlighten
Herald of Thunder (shouldn't be linked to anything to not mess up mana reservation)

Other misc setup:
Vaal Discipline + inc duration (1 or 2 Vaal Discipline is all preferance)

Regular CWDT + IC + inc duration setup.

Choice of golem between Flame and Chaos


Proof

I have a video of me doing random core map. I died once because I couldn't see anything and lagged to hell with 40% aoe map mod. Shameful of me to post a video of map clearing that is not Deathless!
Core
My builds:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1809378 - Lazor Inqusitor
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1781498 - Burning Arrow Raider
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1800999 - Perfect Formless Inferno Slayer
Last edited by habeo on Feb 20, 2017, 2:49:56 PM
Last bumped on Feb 21, 2017, 12:08:01 PM
As a testament to how silly this meme is, Bladefall CwC has been done before and is already great.
I checked out the other 2 builds that you mentioned and you are probably trolling because neither builds are similar to mine. They are also pretty lackluster in my opinion, since they didn't show enough result of the build.
Not saying that my build is better but I will try to show some result at least, and not a wall of text.
My builds:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1809378 - Lazor Inqusitor
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1781498 - Burning Arrow Raider
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1800999 - Perfect Formless Inferno Slayer
Bladefall is insanely strong compared to baseline skills, BF and BV are just overpowered.
IGN: Arlianth
Check out my LA build: 1782214
Sadly not many plays Bladefall in the current meta, even though its a pretty neat skill all around with good aoe, good base dmg for further scaling.
My builds:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1809378 - Lazor Inqusitor
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1781498 - Burning Arrow Raider
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1800999 - Perfect Formless Inferno Slayer
The build looks good. From my observation in the video leeching only through the two flasks you are using seems to be an issue for longer boss fight especially without trash mobs around (e.g. You have to portal out and in before the 2nd stage malachai to refresh them). Vinktar also doesn't help much in 1 to 1 situations without ridiculous investment (like hungry abyss) for your build. I would rather run two atziri's flask instead but I think you can make a better decision as you have more experience on the build.

I personally think a life version of the same build with berserker could be potentially better. You don't need to rely on flasks for leech, leech more (which is the main defense mechanic of this build), and the other factors are pretty much the same. Any thoughts about that?
Hi, Berserker with Cospri' will and life based is totally possible as an alternative and it would eliminate the downside of this build that is for long/multi phases boss fights I run out of flask as you said. However that come with its own trade off that is it's not CI so you are more susceptible to 1 shot. However you can also get access to Abyssal Cry with 2s cooldown, immune to no leech + no regen map. One thing to note though, the main skill gem link needs 4b2g colour and is much harder to get on Cospri.

About Vinktar, it is a very nice complement for the build, not just for the leech but for the shock, with veteran Bowyer I have 100% increased flask charges gained while vinktar is up and sustaining infinite flask up time is pretty easy that way. However Vinktar is completely not needed unless going for end game contents, where shocking is vital. With the current character I can run through the entire t15 map and even t16 minus the boss with just 1 atziri flask.


The only thing I hate about cwc build is that you have to move to dodge telegraphed attacks and thus losing an additional 0.35s to do damage again.
My builds:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1809378 - Lazor Inqusitor
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1781498 - Burning Arrow Raider
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1800999 - Perfect Formless Inferno Slayer
You don't even need to use Cospri's Will. If you consider pathfinder's poison on hit during flask as the 7th link, you can consider the 40% more damage on berserker as the 7th link and use poison in your main gem link as well. Well, using cospri's will essentially give you the damage of a 8 link but I think you are just fine without it.

And for being life vs CI, well I don't have an opinion on that. That's true in the current state of the game. Maybe using Kaom's heart and put your main skill on wyrmsign gloves, or whatever.
The reason I mentioned Cospri will is because without having to link poison gem I can make use of inc aoe/conc effect which is the best case scenario for both damage and clear speed. Obviously for much more budget friendly version carcass jack is the best chest. I just think that conc effect is such a good gem that you really dont want to miss out on it.

If I am going to make this build as a league starter or early in the league going for berserker with carcass jack is probably enough to take it very far.
Potential gem links for carcass jack should be:
Wither + bladefall + cwc + added chaos + inc aoe/conc + poison.

In tbe upcoming Legacy league, the newly buffed Warband chaos shield is absolutely viable with extra chaos dmg, leech and the awesome 10s Unholy Might on block.
My builds:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1809378 - Lazor Inqusitor
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1781498 - Burning Arrow Raider
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1800999 - Perfect Formless Inferno Slayer

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