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" Regulator wrote: Solwitch... is.. is that you? No... Shit I'm infecting the community... LOL "Another... Solwitch thread." AST Current Games: :::City Skylines:::Elite Dangerous::: Division 2 "...our most seemingly ironclad beliefs about our own agency and conscious experience can be dead wrong." -Adam Bear	Posted by solwitch#4681 on Dec 24, 2016, 2:14:54 PM Quote this Post
" solwitch wrote: " Regulator wrote: Solwitch... is.. is that you? No... Shit I'm infecting the community... LOL Happy Holidays!!! "Another... Solwitch thread." AST Current Games: :::City Skylines:::Elite Dangerous::: Division 2 "...our most seemingly ironclad beliefs about our own agency and conscious experience can be dead wrong." -Adam Bear	Posted by solwitch#4681 on Dec 24, 2016, 2:15:15 PM Quote this Post
" BacktoHell wrote: You don't get it. The visual micro transactions will always sell because they're different (novelty, refreshing), attractive to 'collectors', 'unique' (thematically), allow for wider style customization, more detailed, etc. That doesn't mean the base artwork needs to be bad for that to happen, things are good by own merit and not by comparison to some purposely low standard. Look at Tera (for ex.). Cosmetics sell like CRAZY and still the base artwork is (if you like that style) quite impressive. There's one solid example as you requested. Another one would be SkyForge. PoE is a successful game. At this point, they SHOULD have hired much higher caliber artists and get rid of the amateurs they started with. Bad artwork is bad artwork and it has nothing to with 'a better business model' (it's bad for business, in fact). 'A free to play game has to look like crap and everything 'not horrible' should require $ unlocks'. Can you see how stupid that sounds? Those are your words, man :) You even try to set it as some 'standard' while in fact it isn't, it's more like an exception. Bad artwork isn't a standard and isn't 'strategy', it's a deficiency. 'Everything must be given for free in a game that has no sub and no buy to play'. That's equally stupid, I don't know why you got the impression that was what I was saying. >Skyforge >MMORPG >Shitty generic korean mmorpg >Amateur Art >Not understanding GGGs style Skyforge looks exactly as generic as newer mmorpgs look with their stylization. Its hilarious though you think anyone is going to take you seriously though when youre comparing a MMORPG to an ARPG in terms of graphics. While we are on the topic of stylization, GGG has their own, the game looks pretty good maxed out. Guess the kid talking doesnt realize how much free MTX GGG gives away regularly to its player base. Never did i say you absolutely have to buy MTX, the free MTX is good enough where most less than casual players would be pleased. Youre soo pretentious its hilarious. Harvest sucks! But look at my decked out gear two weeks in! Labyrinth salt farm miner. "But my build diversity" , "Game is too hard!" - Meta drone playing the same 1-3 builds for years. Last edited by Tin_Foil_Hat#0111 on Dec 24, 2016, 2:41:58 PM	Posted by Tin_Foil_Hat#0111 on Dec 24, 2016, 2:41:00 PM Quote this Post
" Tin_Foil_Hat wrote: >Skyforge >MMORPG >Shitty generic korean mmorpg >Amateur Art >Not understanding GGGs style Skyforge looks exactly as generic as newer mmorpgs look with their stylization. Its hilarious though you think anyone is going to take you seriously though when youre comparing a MMORPG to an ARPG in terms of graphics. While we are on the topic of stylization, GGG has their own, the game looks pretty good maxed out. Guess the kid talking doesnt realize how much free MTX GGG gives away regularly to its player base. Never did i say you absolutely have to buy MTX, the free MTX is good enough where most less than casual players would be pleased. Youre soo pretentious its hilarious. What does it matter if it's an MMO or not, regarding quality artwork? 'Artwork' is drawn on paper, by artists. And then it 'makes its way' to your computer monitor. Good is good and bad is bad. Btw, Tera is also an MMO. Now, want me to compare artwork quality from the same genre? (pay models will not match but it's not important to illustrate how ugly PoE is). These have higher quality artwork than PoE, independent from graphic level of technology and chosen style: Diablo II, Torchlight I and II, Titan Quest and Sacred II. Those had good artists, and PoE doesn't. Simple enough for you to understand? It's not about 'which style is better' (which is personal preference), it's about which one did a better job at what it wanted to achieve (which has an absolute value). I never compared graphics, I spoke strictly about artwork (which I explained). 'Graphics' =/= artwork, and i never mentioned 'graphics' one single time. You just keep making things up like the little rabid fanboy you are. It's impossible to have any meaningful discussion with you, you're too dense and just keep bringing things up which have nothing to do with my arguments, and [Removed by Support] Last edited by Melissa_GGG#0000 on Dec 24, 2016, 4:25:10 PM	Posted by BacktoHell#1588 on Dec 24, 2016, 3:27:58 PM Quote this Post
" BacktoHell wrote: " Tin_Foil_Hat wrote: >Skyforge >MMORPG >Shitty generic korean mmorpg >Amateur Art >Not understanding GGGs style Skyforge looks exactly as generic as newer mmorpgs look with their stylization. Its hilarious though you think anyone is going to take you seriously though when youre comparing a MMORPG to an ARPG in terms of graphics. While we are on the topic of stylization, GGG has their own, the game looks pretty good maxed out. Guess the kid talking doesnt realize how much free MTX GGG gives away regularly to its player base. Never did i say you absolutely have to buy MTX, the free MTX is good enough where most less than casual players would be pleased. [Removed by Support] What does it matter if it's an MMO or not, regarding quality artwork? 'Artwork' is drawn on paper, by artists. And then it 'makes its way' to your computer monitor. Good is good and bad is bad. Btw, Tera is also an MMO. Now, want me to compare artwork quality from the same genre? (pay models will not match but it's not important to illustrate how ugly PoE is). These have higher quality artwork than PoE, independent from graphic level of technology and chosen style: Diablo II, Torchlight I and II, Titan Quest and Sacred II. Those had good artists, and PoE doesn't. Simple enough for you to understand? It's not about 'which style is better' (which is personal preference), it's about which one did a better job at what it wanted to achieve (which has an absolute value). I never compared graphics, I spoke strictly about artwork (which I explained). 'Graphics' =/= artwork, and i never mentioned 'graphics' one single time. You just keep making things up like the little rabid fanboy you are. It's impossible to have any meaningful discussion with you, you're too dense and just keep bringing things up which have nothing to do with my arguments, and [Removed by Support] Lmao, youre comparing graphics, youre soo full of shit its hilarious. If you werent you wouldnt be sitting here this triggered when someone makes fun of your shit comparison, the fact that you cant even understand why an MMORPG and ARPG shouldnt be compared visually already said enough about your soo called "knowledge". Diablo 2, shit out dated graphics. Torchlight, shit graphics stylized just like Blizzard always does. You dont even know the difference of what youre trying to compare its fucking hilarious. You keep saying art as some sort of blanket term for everything which its hilariously clear what youre talking about purely, is graphics, else you wouldnt have responded at all to begin with nor made that "sarcastic" remark. [Removed by Support] Harvest sucks! But look at my decked out gear two weeks in! Labyrinth salt farm miner. "But my build diversity" , "Game is too hard!" - Meta drone playing the same 1-3 builds for years. Last edited by Melissa_GGG#0000 on Dec 24, 2016, 4:24:33 PM	Posted by Tin_Foil_Hat#0111 on Dec 24, 2016, 4:09:18 PM Quote this Post
" Tin_Foil_Hat wrote: ... Pointless internet grudge is pointless internet grudge (thanks support for doing the right thing). I normally don't judge a game for its visuals, GGG is overall a good company and doesn't deserve to be over-criticized about 'the things they could do better'. Sure, they have flaws but it would be good if more out there were like them. I wish I liked this game more as to stay and play for long and support the studio. Not because I think it's bad, it just doesn't suit me (always favored the more tactical and technical oriented, co-op based, and not emphasized on player market). Good thing they are doing well in what they try to achieve. The community is nice and I should have known better than to antagonize its members because of some subjective artistic views and whatnot. Even though I have my opinion, it wasn't necessary for me to pollute this good forum by stating it the wrong way. I hope you understand and if you managed to read the removed by support then I'm sorry :( I didn't really mean it (there are enough internet fighters already). Happy gaming, hope to find someday a game I can call home. sigh, feels better Last edited by BacktoHell#1588 on Dec 25, 2016, 1:36:09 PM	Posted by BacktoHell#1588 on Dec 25, 2016, 1:35:41 PM Quote this Post
" vikroda wrote: Kripp has a funny video on youtube relevent to the topic. I thought the "15th century braces" part was pretty good. I hope that "P2W" commentary was supposed to be sarcastic. "Pay to win while looking good"... maybe he would have a point. Also, he never showed the pimptastic festival masks, so... meh. [quote="Lovecraftuk"]I think the new meta is everyone bitching about the new league. [/quote]	Posted by EpicGoesXerxis#5466 on Dec 25, 2016, 1:51:36 PM Quote this Post
" Tin_Foil_Hat wrote: " BacktoHell wrote: " Tin_Foil_Hat wrote: Pretty much never unless you buy MTX to be honest. I think thats pretty fair as well. Yeah, intentionally uninspired, visually repulsive artwork is always a positive game feature. /s Its free to play. Point me to one free to play game that doesnt looks shit at a base level, pro tip, you cant because none of them do. They make money off of selling visuals, you sound like a complete whiny leech with your statement. LUL League of Legends (in fact most MOBAS), STO/EVE ships looks nice at any time in the game, TF2 kinda because you get free drops just by playing. There are others but you get the idea. I sell Mathil feet pics Last edited by CopyWritten#4165 on Dec 25, 2016, 3:56:04 PM	Posted by CopyWritten#4165 on Dec 25, 2016, 3:53:34 PM Quote this Post