Elected dictatorship

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Schmodderhengst wrote:

Same rhetoric, hopefully no other comparison necessary in the future:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYgbL6HjRe8

("The Fascist Personality and Rhetoric of Donald Trump")


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpuCv3cc5_o

("Cornel West on Donald Trump: This is What Neo-Fascism Looks Like")

Prof. West´s views almost exactly reflect my own, so - sry for the youtube links, but I don´t feel like writing walls of text like in the beginning of the "Donald Trump" thread anymore.

Well, ordinary People are stupid, as your link´s show´s. They put stuff out of context, naivly believe evrything, and on top of it act moraly superior and as if they are smarter.
Hitler raised awarness of this phenomenom, not to benefit from it, oterwise would contradict itself, right? And Göbbels didn´t grab a hammer and destroyed Berlin, the allied massbombing did it. I wunder why they didn´t also try it on Saddam hussain, oh right we live in a Information time.
And the media is lying, no amount of tv-show´s could convince thinking people otherwise. They are the accused, not the people pointing to there lies.

The victoryious write the history, it wouldnt make sense otherwise, why would they stand up for there enemy´s. Showing of turture devices doesn´t proove anything and all this supposed evidence is staged and who believe´s otherwise would make the worst judge in history.
And even the victoryious were scammed, because (((bank´s))) have the intrest to throw both sides into national depth.

Fascism has lost all meaning, evrything today is Fascist, that by itself is rhetoric.
Fascism is not only about race, also culture. Evrybody is at least part Fascist, but most people are not honest enough to admit that. You can go in any Country on earth and ask the native people if they were ok if there culture and people are replaced tomorrow, you will be suprised. Don´t get me wrong, i defenetly don´t think in absolutes, it´s absolutly ok if part´s of our Society is foreign, but none the less, they have to fit in.

Multiculturalism only work´s in the west, because the people have the luxury to just ignore it. But in nation´s were thing´s get rough, we indeed see racial and cultural clash, just look at Afrika and the orient.

There is a City in Germany, i believe near Düsseldorf, which consist´s of about 50 nation´s and it has high crime, unemployment and the trash lay´s out on the street. Of course our media blame´s it on german´s don´t intigrating them. Some may think that crime is bad should know evrybody. My Homeland, is a very stiff and Robot like Society and who want´s to live here has to know it and respect it.

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Bars wrote:

'Oh, only if we had a real democracy, things would be so much better!" Nope.

in western societies, people got so used to have no choice in elections and no participation in decision-making that they want to destroy the whole structure, see america and now italy, the best sign that democracy works.

additionally it's a strong indicator that after they took decision power away from the masses for quite some time, people got used to have no saying. their decisions didn't and don't matter, they can choose what they want and they just tested it out, with fatal consequences.

the process to take decision power away from people has been a long and silent one, the reversion, to give decision power back to people will take even longer. people will only regain interest in politics once they know that their vote matters.

an example: i like the the public vote system in switzerland but i wouldn't want it for germany. not for the current generation of people.

when you can't think for yourself so you post biased youtube videos of people speaking for you because you just know those people aren't biased at all

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fozziex wrote:

As the title states that's what the USA has for the next four years.

Have you not checked out the Donald Trump thread where this topic has been discussed and debated for far, far longer?

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fozziex wrote:

So forget democracy during that time.

Wrong. Democracy put Trump into power because the people voted for him, and the electoral college won it. But the world often forgets that the US is a "Republic", not just a "Democracy". To be more accurate, it's a Democratic Republic. Each state has at least 3 electoral votes to be represented within the union. It's not majority-rule or populace-pushed government, it's a union with member states that each have their own governance.

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fozziex wrote:

I have to give credit to the right. They have worked the internet like nobody's business.

It's not the right, it's 4chan and other social media sources where the alt-right made Trump popular on the Internet. We have crippling liberal policies and laws in place within my country right now, and Trump was the only one that promised change. Same thing happened when Obama won after Bush: you had crippling, war-burdened neo-conservative politics in place and Obama promised "change".

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fozziex wrote:

It would make Himmler proud.

Nazi Fascism shares more with far left and socialistic values than it does with far right conservatism. If you're not from or living in the US, you might be clueless about American political stances and parties.

So let me fill you in: the right wants more individual freedom (ie: less political correctness, more chances to succeed financially, less taxation), less government, less interference, less regulation, while the left wants more government control, more government programs, more government hand-outs, more regulation of corporations, and more special interest freedom (ie: LGBT, Planned Parenthood, etc.).

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fozziex wrote:

Of course that's what I'm living under in Canada. It's scary.
Maybe Trump will do away with elections- After all you've got me. What else do you need.

Or. They will change districts or any number of shenanigans to keep the cons in power.
Think that can't happen there? Think again.

I see you've been brainwashed by the left and liberal media. Congratulations. Best of luck freeing yourself from that consumerism and mind control. Until you do, you'll end up arguing the talking heads' points, defending their agenda, and spreading FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt). Trump will not and cannot "do away with elections" or "change districts". Utterly naive, moronic fallacies that the screaming left spreads. No executive order can undo US constitution and its amendments.

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fozziex wrote:

The USA is just as close to the jungle as any other country. All it takes is the right conditions.
After all, what good can come from a country that worships guns and money like a religion.

Are you going to start spouting conspiracy theories now? That would be entertaining.

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fozziex wrote:

Thanks for listening.

You mean "thanks for letting me vent on a game forum about politics"? You, admit it, you knew that wouldn't go over so well. ;-)

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fozziex wrote:

I'll check in in 4 years - see what happens.

You mean 8 years. Trump will win the election again in 4 years.

"Alt-right" is nothing else than old Nazism.

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Pwnzors87 wrote:

Fascism has lost all meaning, evrything today is Fascist, that by itself is rhetoric.
Fascism is not only about race, also culture. Evrybody is at least part Fascist, but most people are not honest enough to admit that. You can go in any Country on earth and ask the native people if they were ok if there culture and people are replaced tomorrow, you will be suprised.

No. Normal human behaviour. People are afraid of things different and new unless they experience them. Ultra right wingers use these irrational fears. That´s why people in areas with many foreigners are not afraid and people in areas with only a few foreigners are afraid of them here, just one obvious example. The culture absorbs some of the new things that people like, e.g. street cafes(Italian immigrants) and Döner Kebap(Turkish) and Shishas(Arabic) in Germany. There´s still Blasmusik, Sauerkraut and sausage :-).

And replacement of people ? Like the ancient Romans replaced Germans ? Think about it. It´s ridiculous.

Fascism is an inhumane ideology:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

From my point of view everyone who is a fascist or defends that IS morally inferior. Actually I consider them as dangerous and criminal. Ultra right wing idiots in the "west" have much in common with djihadists: hate, ignorance, internet propaganda, violence and the feeling that "our people and culture" are superior and have to remain "pure".

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cipher_nemo wrote:

more chances to succeed financially

One of the key issues I guess. You think right wing politics leads to this for the majority of people ?

After industrialization ? After digitization ? Don´t you see the concentration of money in fewer hands ? The next step which is already happening is artificial intelligence.

In other words: less human work is needed + a few have so much more power than many.

It doesn´t matter if this happens globally or within a nation. With Trump the whole system will get worse.

Trump despises the poor and uneducated. He says he loves them, because they are so easy to manipulate.

More regulation is needed, also more international cooperation. The moderate left (social market system, social democracy) offers solutions. The world is noticing just now, where predator capitalism is leading to.

I´m happy Europe has not completely copied the U.S. predator capitalism so far. As we see the existing wage slavery, it´s obviously no longer a model for the free world.

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Schmodderhengst wrote:

In other words: less human work is needed + a few have so much more power than many.

Video very related (2 minute video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrmMk1Myrxc

Now use your imagination and think of other, shopping unrelated applications. This gonna be yuuuuge.

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Xavderion wrote:

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Schmodderhengst wrote:

In other words: less human work is needed + a few have so much more power than many.

Video very related (2 minute video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrmMk1Myrxc

Now use your imagination and think of other, shopping unrelated applications. This gonna be yuuuuge.

Disgusting advertisement. This company has not earned a single cent from my income. If all this technology would lead to a better life for most of the people, it would be fine. The way things are is the opposite. A few get richer. Many others become unemployed.