[2.5] Burning Vortex Build - Double Degen Tank Elementalist - Shaper Viable - HC or SC

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Kaddomir wrote:
in which level we taking iren reflexes?


Usually around level 60-70 i think is when you will be able to start thinking about using Iron Reflexes. Using Grace gem at a decent level will require a high amount of Dexterity so switching could require a +30 Dexterity node or other Dexterity sources on gear.
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Kaddomir wrote:
in which level we taking iren reflexes?


Usually around level 60-70 i think is when you will be able to start thinking about using Iron Reflexes. Using Grace gem at a decent level will require a high amount of Dexterity so switching could require a +30 Dexterity node or other Dexterity sources on gear.


So before we take IR we must have only armor or ES gear? in which ~level u can recommend go labirinth (normal, cruel, merc)?
Last edited by Kaddomir on Dec 10, 2016, 8:19:34 AM
Hey, I'm trying your build out as it looks like one of the more fun ones out of the current 2.5 builds! I"m also a new player, so this part confused me (sorry if it's common knowledge) - since we're converting all Cold to Fire, how is Frost Bomb's cold resistance debuff still useful? Or is the converted damage somehow still calculated as cold for resistance purposes...? It just seemed counter-intuitive to me. Thanks!
Last edited by Kaddomir on Dec 12, 2016, 12:36:05 PM
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Trandromeda wrote:
Hey, I'm trying your build out as it looks like one of the more fun ones out of the current 2.5 builds! I"m also a new player, so this part confused me (sorry if it's common knowledge) - since we're converting all Cold to Fire, how is Frost Bomb's cold resistance debuff still useful? Or is the converted damage somehow still calculated as cold for resistance purposes...? It just seemed counter-intuitive to me. Thanks!


Hey Vortex will still drop a cold damage DoT on the ground which is where frost bomb will provide some benefit. The Debuff isn't huge but it's some free damage, I mostly use it for single target damage and for a free damage hit when opening boxes etc. If you have any more questions let me know and I hope you are having fun with the build =]
IGN - @Smokntumbleweed ~ Streaming @ twitch.tv/smokintumbleweed
Ignite Vortex Build Guide - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1735563
Brain Rattler 100% Fire Build Guide - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1757390
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Can someone tell how the better option or atleast how to calculate the difference for fire pen vs spell dmg? I would like to find out if Iron Will or Fire Pen is better with my chieftain.
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Nubs1201 wrote:
Can someone tell how the better option or atleast how to calculate the difference for fire pen vs spell dmg? I would like to find out if Iron Will or Fire Pen is better with my chieftain.


Hey a rough guide is Fire Penetration is a "more multiplier" while spell damage is an "increased multiplier". If you want some more detailed info you can read up on modifiers in the link below.
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Modifiers
IGN - @Smokntumbleweed ~ Streaming @ twitch.tv/smokintumbleweed
Ignite Vortex Build Guide - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1735563
Brain Rattler 100% Fire Build Guide - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1757390
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This was my first build in breach and I really enjoyed it. Here's a gif of how I traversed the passive tree

TG137S

Last edited by skyscan on Jan 19, 2017, 10:09:12 AM
Hi, so started this build a few days ago, currently lvl 77.

It's probably worth to buy Witchfire brew right?

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Witchfire_Brew

Drop the curse on hit on orb of storms, drop disc and go with 1x blasphemy (temp chains for example), the flask will give vuln aura and increased dot dmg (which should work with ignite right?). Thoughts?
Last edited by Hilllo on Dec 23, 2016, 10:01:20 AM
Very interesting build! I was doing some math and unless I did my math wrong, replacing Fire Penetration with a levelled Empower gem (+2 or +3 levels) gives more DPS (due to higher base damage and Cold DoT from vortex and increased support gems). With the other sources of penetration and resistance killing curses, is Empower a decent alternative to Fire Penetration or would you still recommend Fire Penetration over Empower?

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