Qs about Double Dipping and Ignite

I was told, and the Wiki seems to also imply, that Ignite can double-dip on Fire Damage and Elemental Damage (By double-dipping, I refer to not only the initial hit being increased by a damage increaser which sets the baseline amount, but also the Burning Damage-over-time also gets increased)

Example: normally a 100 damage hit (of fire) can ignite for 20 damage per second for 4 seconds

If double-dip is true, then adding +100% increased fire damage to the above scenario would yeild: 200 damage hit that can ignite for 80 damage for 4 seconds (four times the burn)

Q1: Is the above true?

Q2: Are there penalties that double-dip? I am looking specifically at Spell Totem and Elemental Proliferation, both of which incur a less damage penalty to the hits that might also??? penalize the amount of burn damage that resulted from the hits

Q3: Can Increased Totem Damage apply to the burn damage from ignites that were set off from a skill that a Totem used? (Similar to how I am aware Poison's damage-over-time can double-dip on 'projectile' damage if a projectile attack poisoned) Q3p2: What about Increased Projectile Damage, if a projectile caused an ignite? Area Dmg from Area skill?

Q4: Can you think of anything else I might want to beware or consider when attempting to theorycraft an Emberwake-based ignite stacking build that tooltips don't necessarily tell you?

1. Yes.

2. Of course, 'less damage' works an all damage regardless of type so it will double dip as will less elemental/fire, less projectile/AoE if you applied ignite with a projectile or AoE spell and less trap/mine/totem damage if you did it via trap/mine/totem. If the enemy is resistant to fire that will also apply twice, but elemental penetration will apply only to the hit.

3. Yes, see question 2.

4. I think that would be about it, you need to be careful about double-dipping, exploit it where you can and try to avoid the penalties as much as possible.

Thanks for the info.

I have my sights set on the Chieftain ascendancy "Arohongui, Moon's Presence" as the "Enemies near your Totems take 16% increased Physical and Fire Damage" Would logically double-dip and make a good deal of effect.

Shame that spell totem double-penalizes ... still good to know, not a deal-breaker.

Yes, it would double dip, it's a good choice.

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PerfectDuck83 wrote:

Shame that spell totem double-penalizes ... still good to know, not a deal-breaker.

Well, you can use a Flame totem and get no penalty, that would probably be your best bet.