Terrorist attack in Paris

I wonder how tiny the minority of extremist muslims actually is. WTB stats about this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epEXLOAjals

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Hilbert wrote:

Germany won't be target as long they deal with the countries that are supporting terrorism under the hand.

"Germany-Netherlands soccer game canceled after police find bomb-laden ambulance nearby"

Local newspaper Kreiszeitung reported that a vehicle disguised as an ambulance and packed with explosives had been discovered parked outside Hannover stadium as Germany prepared to take on the Netherlands.

French intelligence officials are reported to have warned their German counterparts about a potential attack, sparking a string of security alerts this evening.

According to German newspaper Bild, a North African terror cell was planning to attack Hannover with assault rifles and suicide vests - chillingly similar to the methods used in Paris on Friday which killed 129.

They also reported an Iraqi ‘sleeper agent’ may have planned the attack.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/germany-terror-alert-ambulance-packed-
6849876?ICID=FB_mirror_main

I am glad another tragedy was averted, but they won't stop unless we heed Hollande's words:

"The French president said he wanted the talks "to unify our strength and achieve a result that has been too long in coming." Hollande called for "a union of all who can fight this terrorist army in a single coalition.""

updated:

"Interior minister Thomas de Maiziere said no explosives had been found at the stadium, contradicting the Hannover police chief, who was quoted by multiple sources as saying “there was a device intended to be detonated inside the stadium.”

"De Maiziere said he could give few details because he needed to protect the source of information, and because “part of these answers would upset the population.”

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DalaiLama wrote:

"De Maiziere said he could give few details because he needed to protect the source of information, and because “part of these answers would upset the population.”[/i]

He's digging his grave real hard. Merkel already said she has "complete confidence" in him. That's Merkel lingo for "he's getting sacked real soon".

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Xavderion wrote:

I wonder how tiny the minority of extremist muslims actually is. WTB stats about this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epEXLOAjals

Trying to find reasonable people in a football match. Not gonna happen.

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Poutsos wrote:

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Xavderion wrote:

I wonder how tiny the minority of extremist muslims actually is. WTB stats about this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epEXLOAjals

Trying to find reasonable people in a football match. Not gonna happen.

The English fans sung the Marseillaise (or at least they tried lol) and did a huge tricolore tifo :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MLGTTMXsIU

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"Germany-Netherlands soccer game canceled after police find bomb-laden ambulance nearby"

That was a twitter rumor.

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According to German newspaper Bild, a North African terror cell was planning to attack Hannover with assault rifles and suicide vests - chillingly similar to the methods used in Paris on Friday which killed 129.

This "newspaper" is the printversion of Fox News in Germany.

You believe the terrorists are stupid and attack every day.
The terorrists go for a high killcount and that's not possible if Army and police are everywhere.
There are exactly 2 situations when Terrorists strike.

1. When nobody expects it.

2. After a suicide attack when helpers try to rescue survivors they blow themselves up in the group to increase the amount of casualities.


There won't be an attack in Germany because of Teflon Merkel.
She supports France by adding troups to Mali so France can bomb the crap you of ISIS.

If the terrorists wanted to attack Germany they would do it in December during christmas, during summer in big concerts, during february during carnival or during september during oktoberfest.

The next attack will pretty much be during the European Cup in soccer in France.
The terrorists tested if they can get into the stadium with suicide wests.

They couldn't so be sure they will prepare it before a relevant game or use drones to drop explosives on the viewers.

It is a sad tragedy and I feel for the loss of those that died that day in Paris. It is a cruel thing to say but most people are just little pawns on the grand chessboard called Earth.

I am afraid more events will follow.

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NeroNoah wrote:

That ignores that Assad attacked their own people (so he is not viable anymore, even if he returns to power), and that totalitarian governments are a nice place for things like ISIS to born from resentment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MKxZcAvfP0

longer version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3G9MIDoa64

Who will you believe? I literally say ‘believe’ because you’ll truly never know the facts.

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Reinhart wrote:

It is a sad tragedy and I feel for the loss of those that died that day in Paris. It is a cruel thing to say but most people are just little pawns on the grand chessboard called Earth.

I am afraid more events will follow.

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NeroNoah wrote:

That ignores that Assad attacked their own people (so he is not viable anymore, even if he returns to power), and that totalitarian governments are a nice place for things like ISIS to born from resentment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MKxZcAvfP0

longer version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3G9MIDoa64

Who will you believe? I literally say ‘believe’ because you’ll truly never know the facts.

Well, some facts: there is internet censorship in Syria, US doesn't seem interested in the region (else we would have seen ground troops; outside some support to rebels, the rest of the world has done nothing; that being said, the response depends on what government US has, Democrats are less eager to start fights than ever), and even the UN is against them. This is not Iraq, although that doesn't mean that it would be apropiate to fight a war (see Lybia; just because a government sucks, it doesn't mean it's a good idea to start a war).

I think it's a safe bet to say that Syria government sucks.

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TheWretch wrote:

Very enlightening, I will rethink everything, very wise +1

-Peace-

Wretch

[Removed by Support]" motto. I just heavily dislike your appeal to be passive.
You can wish to not better youself at anything, that's your choice, but when you appeal for others to do the same, that's when someone gotta call you on your bullshit.

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Xavderion wrote:

I wonder how tiny the minority of extremist muslims actually is. WTB stats about this.

Oh you mean from respectable well-known unbiased source like the Pew Research Center?


http://www.pewforum.org/files/2013/04/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

watch out, facts are islamophobic.

Now Ill proceed to "counter" my argument with a graphic from same source:

I say "counter" because its not a real counter, in the sense, that I myself dont believe most islamics advocate for ISIS, what I am certain of is the fact that the views of your average moderate islamic are irreconcilable with the values of modern western society and by our own standards are anything but moderate.

at the same time I'd like to add this from the mix from the same source (couldnt cause accidentally posted instead of preview):



FINAL EDIT: cause its too much to post, just search any and all polls on any kind of views from islamic countries, and you can come to a pretty obvious conclusion



The extreme left absurd leniency is what leads to our own youth being brainwashed into ISIS.
The fact that there may be more british citizens fighting for ISIS than against ISIS should be a little hint.
for that matter on absurd leniency and brainwashing, how about this one?
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28939089
the police didnt act for years because they were afraid of being labeled racist... jesus christ. (well, england is a special case, that may be past the point of no return already)

The problem is, we have long gone past the moderate point, we may not yet be a liberal arts college SJW society, but we are but a step below them, governments are afraid to tackle religions, especially "outside" minority ones, which in turn leaves the extremists within said religions to freely poison the minds of the youth. There are many a factors to how we came to this point, the way to cook a frog in an open pot is by slowly heating the water. I dont expect the average citizen to fully understand the complexities of modeling the thoughts of others, but I leave this video here as I think Yuri Bezmenov does a very good general explanation of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g

What NEEDS to happen is not just obliterating ISIS outside, but fiercely removal of radicalism inside our own countries, deport foreign-born radicals who preach hate, close mosques who are used for such, lead those born here to justice. The french interior minister has the right idea, though its late by decades.
You dont ignore extremists and hope they will become better people, that's not what happens, ignoring issues only sets you as step-stone for those willing to walk over you.



Thankfully my country is still not at that state, but I wonder how long.
Portuguese islamic citizens are quite adjusted and AFAIK radicalism has been found only outside of their reach.

Still, makes me worry for the future, apparently my country is poor enough to have our very own PM tell our youth to leave the country in search of employment, people going deeper into poverty due to troika (it was either 2013 or 2014 where deaths were going up by a lot as a consequence), but apparently we are not poor enough to not have 4500+ migrants injected into a failed economy.

for that matter it really amazes me how people think that when there's already an high level of unemployment, adding more jobseekers will fix the problem. Its like extremist left mind is from another reality, do people just repeat phrases without thinking about what they are saying? ooh and just before anyone picks on it, I find it also lovely how they say its is necessary or else your country population will gradually disappear... so instead of importing bodies and ruining capital per capita even further, why not use the same money used to sustain those to make pro-fertility campaigns?

Can people not understand what they are telling the citizens of the countries with their irresponsible recommendations? Ill give a few hints, its a three letter word, it starts with a D, has a E at the end, and a I in the middle.

But hey, this is 2015, when caring for your own citizens and having economic realism is racism, so I probably wear a pointy white hood and slaughter minorities when Im not playing path of exile