Trash community when it comes to maps...

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qquno wrote:

One of fundamental issues with PoE is what game design is against such thing as Free Maps since its a loss from economical point of view (for map maker). And it is quite unique in its idiocity since other games rather promote groupping/socialising. And while we know what playing in group significanly more simple (safe) in PoE that is not enough to motivate hosting Free Maps since, well, "economy is number one priority".

Most successfull league (from Free Maps point of view) was Ambush since there was unnerfed Catro Boxes which allow ppl to host Free Maps for real, well, or host maps for really low fee. But seems GGG have own opinion what is good for community.

The economy is not the only de-motivator for playing in groups (at least for me). I am always hesitant to host my high level maps because people love to rush so much, and they tend to go wherever they feel like instead of following the leader/group. This, coupled with how experience sharing and loot allocation works, ruins it for me.

Instead of finding random people why not actually make friends?

I would cull maps for you if you provided them ;v

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Kaz2ndChance wrote:

The economy is not the only de-motivator for playing in groups (at least for me). I am always hesitant to host my high level maps because people love to rush so much, and they tend to go wherever they feel like instead of following the leader/group. This, coupled with how experience sharing and loot allocation works, ruins it for me.

Yeah, I know. Basically maps are critical resources (xp/loot wise) and you loss some of resources by hosting Free Maps. That force ppl socialise less, less friends, smaller attachment to the game, quite bad for community and the game itself. In my book its a bad game design.

the real problem is that you shouldn't expect any fee for your maps below 79
i begin to charge for maps only above 79 and if i host maps i do ambush
for a 77 map maybe 1 alch is the most you can charge(in warbands before the drop rate increase after warbands ended)
and as for your bd and gear, my bd is neversink's and my bow is 329dps and i can solo all 80 maps and half of the 81 maps(haven't challenged dominus).
maybe it's somewhat due to my lvl being 94
but if you say you need 10+ex to upgrade or you die and die in those maps, i can't agree
something must be wrong with you, for example, you should be more careful.
i had hard time, too. and then i began to reflect on myself.
my most expensive gear is the bow and the rest is less than 15ex in all. I don't know exactly the price for std and sometimes you can find useful gear yourself. and if price if higher in std, it means you can make money faster. that's the same. so stop complaining about the difficulty you are facing pls because it's not like what you think. you should be able to solo those maps.

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qquno wrote:

One of fundamental issues with PoE is what game design is against such thing as Free Maps since its a loss from economical point of view (for map maker). And it is quite unique in its idiocity since other games rather promote groupping/socialising. And while we know what playing in group significanly more simple (safe) in PoE that is not enough to motivate hosting Free Maps since, well, "economy is number one priority".

Most successfull league (from Free Maps point of view) was Ambush since there was unnerfed Catro Boxes which allow ppl to host Free Maps for real, well, or host maps for really low fee. But seems GGG have own opinion what is good for community.

I completely agree with you.

This is the first game I've ever played where you are actually expected to pay to join a group. It will be a cold day in hell before I ever submit to that kind of idiotic game design - just out of principle alone.

This game has a terrible economy. The trading on this game is a type of pain similar to raking my bare ass over hot coals. Desperation alone is the only motivation that causes me ever to suffer it. So if the developers continue on with this farce that the economy is their number 1 priority - then they are horrendous at achieving their goals.

Path of Exile does offer a deep and rewarding character building experience. But it's endgame is so very flawed: expecting players to throw currency like a rich man in Vegas at designing maps. Combine this with a very punishing death penalty that will sap the soul from you with bullshit and lag - only the most masochistic of people and those who make Path of Exile their full-time hobby are going to endure it.

I dont like running my maps with part because I enjoy solo play more and I can run any mod I want. If i will join party they will cry over reflect, blood magic, temp chains or more dmg...

PUG parties in a nutshell if you ask me.

Join a guild, run maps solo or with people you know are trustworthy.

And running maps for free asking for a tip and then being mad because the PUGs don't tip, a lot of them join parties for exactly that reason xD

Running a map that is too hard for your character and expecting to get anywhere is wild optimism.

Expecting randoms to increase the strength of your team is wild optimism.

Hoping randoms will pay for stuff when payment is optional is wild optimism.

1: you get all the map drops
2: you get higher iir bonus
3: if your missing your 6 full invos of rares why are you going in a party since you will never get 6 invos of rare with a party
4: you said they didn't need to give you anything
5: it would be a waste of time and chaos for them to run your map in the first place as it would be for you

I don't like joining peoples maps because alot of things i just yolo solo but if i did run a map and let people in they wouldn't need to pay me cause i wouldn't care about that map