General Support Discussion

Discuss the implementation of Support Gems, their mana cost multipliers, and their role in the game here.

Added new Support Gems:

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Old_Mate wrote:

nO sEARING bOND GEM SECTION YET?

Yes, there is. It's not here in the support gem section because that's an active skill, not a support gem.

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Vipermagi wrote:

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NetherArum wrote:

Just noticed there's no GMP feedback page...

It's the 'Multiple Projectiles' thread (used to be just the one Support). That should probably be renamed some time.

Updated.

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diabloyd wrote:

Hi, about the newly added support gem Close Combat, I would really like to know what exactly is the definition of "close" with this gem.

For instance, from a very close position with maximum damage multiplier, at what range does the damage multiplier begins to fall?

Does it work the same way as Point Blank? or does it has a different calculation in terms of distance?

The "up to x% more damge" stat on Close Combat support (and the matching stat on the Slayer's Impact notable) apply the full damage bonus to targets up to a distance of 15 units from you, then linearly scales down the bonus to 0 at a distance of 40 units.

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Yogen88 wrote:

The gem says x% more activation frequency, and if you take that by the word, that would mean "activation frequency"*(1-x/100), but how it actually calculated is "activation frequency"*[1/(1+x/100)].

No, this is incorrect. The modifier applies as an increase to the frequency. This has an inverse effect on the period because the frequency is inherently the inverse of the period.

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Yogen88 wrote:

Now why did I put "activation frequency" in quotation marks? Frequency commonly means activations/given period of time, but in poe it is actually a peroid value, which is "how much time it takes to activate once".

This is also incorrect. The frequency and the period are inherently related, but they are not the same thing. The gem and skill popups for brands display the period because that's more understandable to players. The modifier specifies it applies to frequency and thus does apply to frequency, not period. That has an effect on the period, but does not mean the period is what is referred to by stats that explicitly refer to frequency.

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Yogen88 wrote:

So this is confusing two ways, the more% applies to the frequency we are used to from physics not the value that actually is on the tooltip in the game

This is correct and intended. The modifier says it applies to frequency, and does so. The skill always displays the period, accounting for the effect that modifying the frequency has.

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Archan111 wrote:

1. Cursed ground have no its own thread here.

Thanks - I've added threads for the missing gems now.