Player feedback on trading (both sides welcome)
" I used procurement WAY back in the day, before it has the features it does now. The reason why I use acquisition instead is it literally took me watching a 3 min video and about 5 min or less to set it up and from there it is completely automatic really. I think procurement can do the same thing, but as you notice from my tabs is I have my shop tabs, with the B\O listed, those tabs in aquisition are set to the b\o listed. So if I put something in one of the two 1 chaos tabs, every 30 min it refreshes and updates my shop with those items. The "sell" tab I have is where I don't know what I want to price something at, but still want it to show up on poe.trade searches, mainly uniques I'm unsure of or something I want to check later (although I have a separate tab for that as well) Acquisition allows for you to set complete tabs to b\o like i mentioned, ignore them or simply list them without B\O, the ease of allowing it to automatically update my thread is the main reason why I use it, the only disadvantage i know of over procurement is how it doesn't spoiler items by types and such like procurement does, but does procurement have the auto update thread thing now? https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285
FeelsBadMan Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF. |
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" I'm using acquisition to post my items in the shop , but still it would be waaaaaaay much easier and faster with an ah in-game system , items would be just a click away and they would come via mail. EZ , just like in diablo 3 ah , EZ and fast |
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" EZ and fast for items isn't what GGG wants. They want at least some inconvence factor otherwise you are always buying upgrades instead of finding them, which completely nullifies the looting aspect of an ARPG game. Items in PoE should NEVER be search, click, buy and immediate delivery without player interaction. https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285
FeelsBadMan Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF. |
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" Well it does all that and you can set BO tabs and everything you just have to setup your template for your tabs and what BOs you set on what tabs and so on! but to my knowledge you do still need to update your shop thread when you put a bunch of new stuff in there! I think dont hold me to that its just what i do i load my tabs go price them (OR in your case you just put the item in its priced tab i used to do that but my prices vary so much on so many different items i cant have a tab for every single price i use so i just do it individually to save tabs!!) then update and im done i farm and wait for buyers! end of the day i repeat! But sounds like its worth giving a try for sure! doesnt sound like i would be losing anything i already have working! and i dont recall anyone saying anything BAD about it either! Thanks again mate! \m/ There is a fine line between Consideration and Hesitation. The former is Wisdom, the latter is Fear. Last edited by Demonoz#1375 on Jul 24, 2015, 1:49:23 PM
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" Already possible. There are plenty of trade sites and stores outside of POE where you can get any item you want. It is very hypocrite to think it is not happening. |
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" That argument would work for a game with proper drop rates of useful (not even talking about top grade) stuff. However it's invalid for a game like PoE where good things simply do not drop. This game probably has the worst drop rate of useful item of any game I've ever played. Quality > quantity. Just because a map drops 20 yellows doesn't mean you gain much from it if 99.99% of yellows in this game are completely trash. Last edited by melodia1#6446 on Jul 24, 2015, 3:40:12 PM
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Many new players try this game out and when they see how trash is the trade system , they just give up , I was one of those players back in 2013 when I tried the game , I played until lvl 30 or something and I started to figure out the game more and the trade system , I couldn't get upgrades for my gear , I was confused and I just gave up on it and played something else , but over the time I found out procurement , acqusition and poe.trade and now I could buy upgrades and I know how to sell my stuff.
But still, this doesn't change the fact that the trade system is trash and not at all friendly for new players. I would suggest to GGG to implement a more noob friendly trade system in-game , without us requiring to install all kind of 3rd party programs and spam the trade chat 24/7. edit: this is exactly what I'm saying why the trade system is trash , look at what ziggyd tweeted , If there would've been an in-game ah then that 6l chest he wants would be just a click away.  Last edited by wintertale#0854 on Jul 25, 2015, 4:47:10 AM
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The problem with PoE trading system is that either it is not a PoE trading system no more or that no one really uses it. Just as explained by the OP everyone uses external software not the in built trading systems created by GGG. You know, at this point we might as well get an AH and you know what? It's gonna be no different really. You search for items and compare them automatically anyways. Yy price based on similar items. You add an item to be sold with one or two clicks anyways. And player to player interaction? Ctrl+c ctrl+v my ho, thx glhf.
Like idk guys, the whole interaction based economy is just a myth at this point. Like look at the streamers even from state of exile. When it cb recently they were saying that trade is dead there because there was no poetrade. Well why not just put it in the game interface and be done with it? |
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My first problem with trade is that the game is balanced around it. You don't find enough cool stuff that you want. If you're lucky, you *might* find cool stuff that somebody else wants, which you can sell, then you can buy the cool stuff that you want. That's too many layers of indirection to feel exciting or rewarding.
My second problem with trading in POE is precisely because it requires human interaction. Posting on forums is one thing, akin to chatting with friends or acquaintances. In game it's another thing entirely, more like the annoying sibling that keeps interrupting you, or perhaps the noisy jackass in the movie theater. I play games to entertain myself, not to be social. If you can even call this a social interaction: a: "WTB X." b: *invites* a: *goes to hideout, completes trade, leaves* So, taking that into account as well as the fact that trading will never go away, I'd say that an automated system (AH or otherwise) suits me just fine. |
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