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Guys, what do you think about that change:


Pros: +2 nodes
Cons: -16% ele, -28% fire dmg.

2 nodes could be spent at shadow tree start are for +8% cast speed (there is in total 3 4% nodes).
Last edited by Begur on Dec 14, 2014, 8:33:03 AM
why dont you use herald of ash ??
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Rubinjo wrote:
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KuteKitteh wrote:
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A_wiggin wrote:
Maybe a dumb question. but why don't you get Celestial Punishment/judgement?
Because the build scales better with cast speed, so I got Mental Rapidity and Nimbleness. The added chaos gem only scales with spell damage while the heralds only scale with elemental damage, but cast speed scales the DPS on both of them. It also gives Incinerate a faster ramp-up speed.

The shock/freeze/ignite is very, very moot against high-HP enemies that Incinerate simply can't shock, never mind freeze. The 2% penetration is OK, but spending 6 points for 38% elemental leaves the tree at a deficit worth over 2.5 points, which 2% penetration can't really make up.

With Punishment Incinerate would still ignite enemies quite quickly, and as ignite duration is usually at least 4 secs, that would be 25% increased damage which is up most of the time.
25% increased damage is not much at all, really. 6 points for 63% increased damage (mostly elemental) and 2% to all pen is somewhat decent, but 6 points of cast speed will beat it out in the end because of the nature of Incinerate.

Also it's horribly moot against Atziri, who can't be ignited.

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DjNanos wrote:
should i put faster proj? i thought putting it instead of echo
FP (instead of faster casting) is only worth it if you don't have any quality or the projectile speed node.
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Begur wrote:
Guys, what do you think about that change:


Pros: +2 nodes
Cons: -16% ele, -28% fire dmg.

2 nodes could be spent at shadow tree start are for +8% cast speed (there is in total 3 4% nodes).
I've put a lot of thought into that, and I concluded in the end that the net value of those nodes greatly exceeds 2 points by a wide margin. I don't recommend it at all.

As far as I am aware, the tree is as point-efficiency-optimized as possible.


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DjNanos wrote:
why dont you use herald of ash ??
HoA is for phys builds. The mana reservation of HoA is not worth it, since using a third herald will drop the unreserved mana to dangerously low levels.
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Last edited by KuteKitteh on Dec 14, 2014, 12:40:33 PM
Would Vaal Pact be a good option? You could drop one projectile damage node and the Soul Siphon at the Shadow start. You would lose 10% projectile damage, +10 mana, +5 mana gained on kill and 26% max mana but you would gain 5% more life and instant life leech. In a 5 link you would need to drop FC for LL but i guess you would still deal enough damage. Do you have any experience how your build does in a map with +75% fire resistance? I'm thinking about the Zana missions here, because you never know which mods you get there.
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Malkor1 wrote:
Do you have any experience how your build does in a map with +75% fire resistance? I'm thinking about the Zana missions here, because you never know which mods you get there.

Aprox. half of the damage is lightning. You also could use elemental weakness curse.
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KuteKitteh wrote:
As far as I am aware, the tree is as point-efficiency-optimized as possible.

Thank you for info. I am currently running this build on lvl 84 Scion. My incinerate is only 11lvl ATM, as well as arctic armor is lvl10. I did not pickup Catalyse, Soul Siphone & Templar start mana regen clusters. No problems with mana so far. 2.9k mana and 232 regen (aura on).
Can you tell me why i should prefer spell totem over flame totem ?
You think using ele weakness would be good and if in which setup. I thought like elemental weakness+curse on hit or somethin
can you tell me what exactly make you tanky??

iam level 52 at ledge merciless and i got oneshottet...
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