Hegemony's Era knockback mechanic

"10% chance to gain a Power Charge if you Knock an enemy Back with Melee Damage"

Does this give me...

...a 10% chance to get 1 PC on 1 knockback attack?
(knockback 7 monsters, be lucky with the 10%, but only get 1 powercharge)

...a 10% chance to get 1 PC per monster I knockback?
(knockback 7 monsters, be lucky with the 10% get 7 powercharges)

...a PC at 10% for each knockbacked monster, rolled separatly?
(knockback 7 monsters, be lucky on two, get two powercharges)

If multistrike is in the mix, do I get 3x the charges or not?

And if someone has tried it, more important question:
Does this definetly allow to replace the PCoC gem as a stable way to generate PC?


3.5 build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2299519
Last edited by Peterlerock on Nov 12, 2014, 4:05:27 PM
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Peterlerock wrote:
"10% chance to gain a Power Charge if you Knock an enemy Back with Melee Damage"

Does this give me...

...a 10% chance to get 1 PC on 1 knockback attack?
(knockback 7 monsters, be lucky with the 10%, but only get 1 powercharge)

...a 10% chance to get 1 PC per monster I knockback?
(knockback 7 monsters, be lucky with the 10% get 7 powercharges)

...a PC at 10% for each knockbacked monster, rolled separatly?
(knockback 7 monsters, be lucky on two, get two powercharges)

If multistrike is in the mix, do I get 3x the charges or not?

And if someone has tried it, more important question:
Does this definetly allow to replace the PCoC gem as a stable way to generate PC?




As the item states you get one PC per enemy knocked so it rolls the 10% for each enemy. The description is clear enough. And yes it does allow you to replace the PCoC IF you have sufficient knpckback
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Just asking because PCOC says "xx% chance to gain a PC on critical strike" but I only get 1 PC when I hit several mobs with crits, even though mechanically crits are rolled separatly for each monster.

3.5 build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2299519
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Peterlerock wrote:
Just asking because PCOC says "xx% chance to gain a PC on critical strike" but I only get 1 PC when I hit several mobs with crits, even though mechanically crits are rolled separatly for each monster.



The item should roll the 10% for each enemy so you should get more than one PC sometimes. Are you sure that's not the case?
Keep in mind that if you knock back 10 enemies you will generally get only one charge,maybe 2 sometimes. 10% is not that high of a chance.
You should get 2 PC in several occasions though.
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Last edited by Iluvatar_gr on Nov 13, 2014, 5:21:05 AM
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Peterlerock wrote:
Just asking because PCOC says "xx% chance to gain a PC on critical strike" but I only get 1 PC when I hit several mobs with crits, even though mechanically crits are rolled separatly for each monster.


No, crit is rolled once per skill use (skill button press), so even if your skill repeats by virtue of multistrike or echo it will use the same roll for all hits. Chance to hit and crit confirmation are rolled separately, though.

PCoC says 'Critical strikes with the supported skill have a chance of granting you a Power Charge', it most likely doesn't say 'critical hits' for that exact reason, you get a power charge per critical roll. You could say Voll's protector gives you one per critical hit.

Similarly, frenzy says 'Performs an attack that gives the character a frenzy charge if it hits', it doesn't say 'you get a power charge on hit', it says 'you get a power charge per successful attack'.

I wonder how much time they spent to formulate it like that.
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Last edited by raics on Nov 13, 2014, 5:34:10 AM
So confusing, those mechanics.
I thought it is a crit once I get "crit confirmation".

Ok, so PCoC: xx% for 1 PC per Crit Attack
Hegemony: 10% per monster I knockback

Still not sure if I want to spend 25x times more for a Hegemony Staff than for
3.5 build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2299519
No idea, I got this sitting in my stash for a long time with a noble intention of making a sweep crit build one day, just for the hell of it.



Properly crafted it should outdps hegemony, but you know, those power charges on knockback play right into that kind of build and look mighty tempting.
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