Witch Ci Fp 85 lvl low DPS problem
Hello, I've been playing PoE for almost a year now. I play Witch CI FP from the beginning, modified my build and equipment but still encounter problems. I have lvl 85 now and I think my dps is too low. Is there anyone who can tell me what seems to be the problem?
With Herald of Thunder, Discipline, Clarity I have 6200 ES and 6500 dps without Power charge and Frenzy, with this i have 9300dps (per one pulse I assume)from Freezing Pulse. My gear
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And my Passive Tree Can anyone tell me where is the problem and how to improve Passive to increase dps without losing ES and Mana/Mana Regen? Last edited by piotreksu#6315 on Nov 1, 2014, 6:18:55 PM
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First of all instead of using spoiler you can use the URL tag to make your passive tree clickable, it's less annoying and much faster to view like that.
Try something like: http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMAAW8C4wVCBVsHpQ2NEFgRLRFQFVAV1xpsGyUc3B1PIvQpTyycLL81uTbFN4FBlkbXRwZJskuuTLNQMFZjVytca13GX2pjQ2SdbAttGXC7fIN9U35Zf8aCEIKbhEiFfYaui3qLjI5kj_qdrqcIpyunNK6zr5u2hrb6uJO5k72CwcXDCcNtzfrQ9dgk2RPZW9rd217b593z34rfsOFz4vfjVuQi5OvpAuv17BjtIPId8uH2_PemYG0OSF3ycNWJ03BStQQRlkLD34QC_ow2B2PLvQ== Should yield a lot more dps and have higher mana regen (40% increase). Changes: +6% cast speed +40% mana regen +8% max mana +90% crit chance +35% crit multiplier +20% elemental damage +5% chance to freeze -18% power charge duration (really not needed) -6% cold damage -22% spell damage -15% fire resist and fire damage -15% lightning resist and lightning damage -1 skill point (my version requires another point) So in summary you lose only 8% damage increase and 15% resists to fire and lightning but gain: More mana, more mana regen, more cast speed, more freeze chance and a lot of crit damage and chance. Also it opens you up to shadow nodes which are the best dps nodes imo. If you wanted even more damage you would need to change Faster Projectiles for Increased Crit Multiplier gem but it would probably be a bit too spiky when it comes to reflect. However the DPS spike would be MASSIVE, since you are running power charges already. And with another 40% mana regen and 8% max mana you might be able to change your Elreon ring to an actually good ring (no offense). [2.2] The Vampire - Tanky 2H Axe Slayer Duelist - /view-thread/1611662 Last edited by Mannoth#4185 on Nov 1, 2014, 6:08:22 PM
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Dont see the problem. 9300 tooltip is pretty decent for freeze pulse, since thats 46500 total shotgun dps versus single mobs. However, for better clearing versus resistant mobs you might consider using cold penetration instead of faster projectiles And instead of using Pcoc you might consider using Assasin's mark as your curse, linked to herald of thunder - curse on hit, since freeze pulse can crit and thus shock pretty easily that way, and thus herald of thunder will proc and constantly curse mobs around you. Then instead of ass mark you can use increased critical damage which is a huge boost to your crit damage, both shocking and freezing mobs more consistantly and doing more damage.
You might consider ditching both your secondary spells (vaal storm call and ice spear) since they dont really improve anything and running a CwdT setup or whatever instead. Major issue, your twostone ring should be upgraded, very drastically, to a proper Res ring, with preferably a Dex or Str roll on it and flat mana for prefix. Flat mana will both allow you to use have more mana unreserved and more mana regen. the Dex/Str will then open up yet another passive point and the res will open up the availlability of ditching those horrid specced res nodes on the tree. http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMAAW8C4wMeBAcFQgVbBiMHpQ2NDkgQWBEvEVARlhVQFdcWvxpsGyUc3B8CH0Ei9ClPKgsrCiycLL8vbzW5NsVBlkbXRwZJUUmyS65Ms1AwVmNca13GXfJfKl9qYG1jQ2SdbAttGXBScLtw1X1Tf8aCEIKbhEiFfYauidOLeouMjmSP-p2Ana6nCKcrrrOvm7UEtUi2hrb3tvrBxcNty73Q9dgk2RPZW9rd217b593z34rfsOFz4vfkIuaB6QLr5Ov17BjtIPDV8h3y4fPq96Y= Im looking at something like this around your level. the projectile speed from the shadow makes up for a small amount of the loss of FProj, while you can a lot more crit and crit multi this way, and cast speed included. In return I ditched a bit of spell and cold damage, since you already have that at a pretty high number, meaning crit and cast speed does more (since they all multiply which eachother etc etc). For the mana regen, i switched some nodes around and you now should have even more regen, and mana total, just look through it. Written in blood gives good ES and str, and the notables in the shadow area give 30dex combined while being good passthrough nodes so you will be allowed to ditch another 30dex notable too (which i did btw) If you cant manage to fit herald of thunder with curse on hit in, dump herald of ice instead, since herald of thunder is imo superior due to its pure comfort of cursing everything around you and dealing a slight amount of extra dmg. Itll allow you to dump pcoc as the gem. Hope this is clear enough, if any other questions, just ask. Ign: Leary_AscendedNecro
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I am gonna go ahead and guess the fact you feel like you are dealing low DPS is the lack of Cold Penetration as leary mentioned.
Think his version is good also, Sniper+20/20 FP should be enough projectile speed and the Cold Penetration is just amazing. Don't think you can rely on Herald of Thunder+Assassin Mark for power charges though, not when you run a build based around it. However his suggestions are good also so try to make the best from both of our ideas. [2.2] The Vampire - Tanky 2H Axe Slayer Duelist - /view-thread/1611662 Last edited by Mannoth#4185 on Nov 1, 2014, 6:15:51 PM
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" HoT + Ass mark is pretty consistent for Power charges I can tell you that. Ive done it at lvl 40 with tendrils and it keeps it up even, so I consider a 6% crit based spell at lvl 80 should not have any problems keeping it up (and its a good way to improve your clearspeed since you will always be searching for that more efficient path so you wont stop the train from rolling properly. Ign: Leary_AscendedNecro
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" I had situations where i would clear a whole pack of zombies and not get any charges, it is rare but it can happen. However for boss fights you cannot count on it at all, especially versus the high hp ones (dominus/vaal/atziri, etc). [2.2] The Vampire - Tanky 2H Axe Slayer Duelist - /view-thread/1611662
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" Obv for bosses you can still swap pcoc for inc crit multi tho, at least i hope you have enough time for that, since most bosses are in special area's (the ones that are tanky at least) and even then most still have adds (apart from atziri herself at most of the fight). For the not getting charges later on, its really rare later on, since it has a 30% chance (which gets increased by curse effectiveness from the lvls on curse on hit, Q on curse on hit, and Q on ass mark increases the charge granting even further, which i kind of recommend). It is prob a bit less reliable than pcoc indeed (well, not prob, it actually is less reliable), but considering the dps increase it grants, (an extra gem basically, which almost doubles your crit dmg on 20/20) I think its worth it. Secondary, regardless of anything, herald of thunder is better than ice because it can add those juicy shock stacks, so even if you dont like the curse on hit (which is understandable) I do think the shocks are worth it. Same counts for keeping ass mark as your curse over frostbite, because it gives you a lot lot more crit damage and up to 10% crit chance increase from the curse itself. Ign: Leary_AscendedNecro
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I really appreciate such elaborate replies. Thank you so much. I will try both builds - the one Mannoth suggested as well as the one proposed by leary93.
When it comes to my crappy ring, what do you suggest - any particular item? However, I have few more questions: 1. If from the set of gems on chest armor I'll ditch PCoC, is there any other way I can recharge power charges? I think that connection with Curse on Heat, Assassin's Mark and Herald of Thunder won't quite work. 2. I wonder if from the both builds I will acquire enough dex and str to use my equipment and gems (if I remember clearly it was 109 str and 151 dex). |
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" curse on hit herald of thunder ass mark does work, 100% (Ive tested, and it really is smooth enough). If you need to fight a boss, just swap the gem. Or, alternatively, manual curse with assasin's mark or use arc - curse on hit instead, but ass mark is enough to keep it rolling. For point 2, you can get up to 50 dex on your ring you can replace. What I recommend looking for is: 1. A Res base ring with 2. a tier 1 res 3. a high tier dex stat 4. either mana/es on prefix. 5. An open suffix. Why? this way you can craft either %increased ES from lvl 7 elreon or % mana regen on it. Ofc, you can look for a ring that kind of has that I got : this base for 5c and crafted the ES on it. Just need to know what to look for. Ign: Leary_AscendedNecro
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Thank you for all the suggestions. At the moment I'm using the build proposed by leary93 and curse + Herald of Thunder are doing really great job with packs of mobs. With this build my dps has increased from 9300 to 17100 and this is just amazing! I was so excited that I decided to risk Atziri but my enthusiasm has dampened fast when I encountered the first boss - Vessel of the Vaal. I'm sure this is not Aztiri build but works perfectly good for exping.
I've realized that in contrast to the presented builds I still am few points short for this lvl on the Passive Tree. Last edited by piotreksu#6315 on Nov 4, 2014, 12:07:32 PM
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