Drop rate problem (of the good stuff)

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Dahita wrote:

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mark1030 wrote:

So how does GGG determine what each individual wants in drops? You might want boots with life on them but somebody else would prefer movement speed. Or you might want fire resist and the other guy might want cold resists. There is no way to satisfy the "we want better drops" when everybody has a different opinion on what they think is good. Currently you need a couple resists and life on most things. Well, this crafting will let you spend a couple currency orbs to put the mod you think is missing on the items. Sounds like a pretty good way to satisfy everybody. Except, it didn't drop that way, you had to make it that way. Is that really so horrible?

And how does finding stuff you can customize to your liking not reduce the reliance on trading? Right now if some boots with 2 resists and life drop but have no movement speed on them, they suck and if you want ones just like them with the ms, you have to trade for them. With the crafters you can put the movement speed on them and you got what you wanted without trading for it.

Yes there is. You just raise the rate of higher drop a tiny little bit. That is IT. no one ever said you want better drops adapted to you or anything like this. Just when you're playing 4 hours straight with your friends and there is not ONE good item dropped the whole time, it's depressing.

Now nobody said crafting won't be good. Crafting will be good imo. It's just not what we're talking about here.

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mark1030 wrote:

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Dahita wrote:

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mark1030 wrote:

So how does GGG determine what each individual wants in drops? You might want boots with life on them but somebody else would prefer movement speed. Or you might want fire resist and the other guy might want cold resists. There is no way to satisfy the "we want better drops" when everybody has a different opinion on what they think is good. Currently you need a couple resists and life on most things. Well, this crafting will let you spend a couple currency orbs to put the mod you think is missing on the items. Sounds like a pretty good way to satisfy everybody. Except, it didn't drop that way, you had to make it that way. Is that really so horrible?

And how does finding stuff you can customize to your liking not reduce the reliance on trading? Right now if some boots with 2 resists and life drop but have no movement speed on them, they suck and if you want ones just like them with the ms, you have to trade for them. With the crafters you can put the movement speed on them and you got what you wanted without trading for it.

Yes there is. You just raise the rate of higher drop a tiny little bit. That is IT. no one ever said you want better drops adapted to you or anything like this. Just when you're playing 4 hours straight with your friends and there is not ONE good item dropped the whole time, it's depressing.

Now nobody said crafting won't be good. Crafting will be good imo. It's just not what we're talking about here.

But that brings me back to my question of "what is considered good?" Would you be happy with a drop that had 3 45% resist mods and Energy Shield if you are playing a life build? What about 3 45% resists and 88 Life when you are playing a Chaos Innoculation build? My point is that "good" is subjective, so how does GGG give you the "good" drops you want as opposed to what somebody else would say is "good"? With crafting, no matter what your build is, both those items would be "good" since a life build could add life to the one that has ES and a CI build could add ES to the one that has life.

I get what miljan is saying though. I agree that there shouldn't be nearly as many low tier rolls on high item level stuff as we see.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

The % of drops that fall below some unknown level, meaning the low lvl crap, is VERY VERY small compared to the amount of items that drop in the mid-high tier at lvl appropriate content. It's probably akin to a bell curve, but possibly steeper

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Uniques don't follow the same rolling path as rares. They're a different conversation entirely.

Or were you specifically talking about Uniques in this thread.

Edit: considering your highest is 68, I'm not surprised you haven't found anything amazing. You haven't played that much in any high lvl areas that would justify you finding any amazing items.

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Dahita wrote:

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Startkabels wrote:

Lol, neither raising the drop rate of "high drops a tiny little bit" nor raising the mod levels on high level items wouldn't change anything for you.

lol Thx Hitler for determining what we would enjoy for us, so kind

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Real_Wolf wrote:

Is it just me or does Dahita not play the game.

There are no legendaries in PoE, there are in D3, but none in PoE.

I get the feeling he is playing the wrong game, and thinks he is playing D3, so I will chalk down all his arguments being wrong to this and not the fact he doesn't understand anything that has been explained to him.

I'm level 68, I find "amazing items" all the time, maybe you are just not actually understanding the value of the items you find and assessing them wrong?

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Real_Wolf wrote:

I love light radius, makes some things way nicer. I'm happy when I get it on some of my items.

The items I define as "Amazing" are ones that are an upgrade for one of my characters, like finding a 5l that I can alch+chaos into something good, or getting a nice spelldmg wand, or some good ms+health boots.


If you don't define amazing the same way, maybe its you who has the problem? If you expect to get paid $10,000/hour for working at McD is it McD's problem that you overestimated what you would get for your time?