Trade Hate: Which one takes more skill?

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TheAnuhart wrote:

There's as much skill involved in thousands of hours twatting monsters in a video game as there is shopping in a video game.

No, actually there isn't, no matter how much you state it.

Getting lucky on drops =/= understanding market trends + being able to successfully negotiate with people.

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TheAnuhart wrote:

Both equal to the amount of fucks given to this silly thread.

As opposed to your silly SFL thread for Standard?

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TheAnuhart wrote:

FWIW, where self found requires player input, is in the synergies of items that are not picked off a shelf and the creating of builds with them. I'm sure that part just went way over you, always.

Yes, because a player who trades, automatically has 100% access to all items in the game, right? Traders still have to "make do" with what they're able to trade for.

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TheAnuhart wrote:

Self found skillz > shopping skillz.

Jelly?

Nerf Self-Found yo, OpieOP

Doublepost

Case in point:

Before the Echo gem was implemented in 1.1.5, I stocked up on Void Batteries @ around 15ex each, knowing full well that it was the best unique caster wand in the game + it was going to be highly desired for the influx of self-casters. I sold some of my other gear to acquire about 8 of them before the patch hit.

And as evidenced from xyz, each Void Battery is now worth 35ex at a minimum, going all the way up to 50ex+. I've sold 5 already for such prices, and have 2 more left for sale. That's called understanding the game, and taking full advantage of such situations.

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JakeAlmighty wrote:

My job to represent the traders then I guess.

tipoftheiceberg

and much, much more. It says standard on it now but that is all from Ambush temp league. Not going to get into the other stuff. All 3 Kaom's Hearts that got Vaaled bricked into rares.... the skins have gone to happy homes to live on.

In all seriousness though you got mad self found lootz Anuhart, keep on grindin' man.

All hail the great Jake Almighty! Sell me of one of those Acuity's :)

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rrtson wrote:

As opposed to your silly SFL thread for Standard?

WTF?

You mean my thread pointing out how GGG created modes that clash, and the better way they should have done it TO ACHIEVE THEIR GOAL would have been as I stated.
The point I was making, was how GGG, on more than one occasion, contradict themselves and prevent themselves from achieving what they want, often through stubbornness and through certain blanket views.

I don't know how many times I have to tell you.
I do not want a SFL.
I wouldn't play in a SFL.
I am not/was not asking for them to turn standard into a SFL.


But I guess it better suits you to pretend otherwise so you can flap about it?
Fuck knows what other reason you have.

I mean, don't take from that thread how GGG's design actually harms your precious long term pyramid economy and will do always, more and more.

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rrtson wrote:

Yes, because a player who trades, automatically has 100% access to all items in the game, right? Traders still have to "make do" with what they're able to trade for.

No, not quite 100%, close though.
But it's a damned site different from that which they only drop, for crying out loud FailFish

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TheAnuhart wrote:

pyramid economy

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TheAnuhart wrote:

pyramid economy

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TheAnuhart wrote:

pyramid

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TheAnuhart wrote:

pyramid

Teach me more about economy pls.
I don't think you actually understand the words that you're using.

If you're somehow suggesting that I am part of this "pyramid economy", I'll have you know that I came back barely 5 months ago, and due to trading, I have increased my wealth by over 10x. I went from having almost nothing to the gear I have now. No way in hell could I have done the same via self-found. Not only does trading allow the rich to get richer. Trading allows the poor to get richer too. Imagine that.

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rrtson wrote:

Teach me more about economy pls.
I don't think you actually understand the words that you're using.

If you're somehow suggesting that I am part of this "pyramid economy", I'll have you know that I came back barely 5 months ago, and due to trading, I have increased my wealth by over 10x. I went from having almost nothing to the gear I have now. No way in hell could I have done the same via self-found. Not only does trading allow the rich to get richer. Trading allows the poor to get richer too. Imagine that.

That doesn't even make sense.

You are not part of a pyramid economy because you came to the game 5 months ago and ended up with the amount of wealth that would require several times more people to actually find than you, the one person that now holds it.

Sure fucking sounds pyramidal to me.

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TheAnuhart wrote:

That doesn't even make sense.

You are not part of a pyramid economy because you came to the game 5 months ago and ended up with the amount of wealth that would require several times more people to actually find than you, the one person that now holds it.

Sure fucking sounds pyramidal to me.

Honestly, you need to stop using that word, because you're making yourself look like an idiot for not grasping the concept that all economies resemble a pyramid, in real life and in other ARPGs.

You're equating "pyramid" with exclusivity. Anyone can climb up the economic ladder, just like I have. All it takes is time-investment. Unless you're suggesting that wealth from the top should be distributed to everyone else, so that the economy now resembles a pancake. No thanks.

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rrtson wrote:

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JakeAlmighty wrote:

My job to represent the traders then I guess.

tipoftheiceberg

and much, much more. It says standard on it now but that is all from Ambush temp league. Not going to get into the other stuff. All 3 Kaom's Hearts that got Vaaled bricked into rares.... the skins have gone to happy homes to live on.

In all seriousness though you got mad self found lootz Anuhart, keep on grindin' man.

All hail the great Jake Almighty! Sell me of one of those Acuity's :)

They are all for sale, i'll be back online starting fri/sat looking to get rid of some. (got plenty more lol)

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rrtson wrote:

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visiON123 wrote:

Standard items
Thread invalidated.

Today I learned: Standard has 100000000% increased IIR/IIQ when killing monsters, and top-tier items drop from monsters like candy. I mean, it's like so much easier to acquire items on Standard!

Can someone else confirm this? visiON123 might be onto something.

dam, u know some people have to stay in hardcore to have something to brag about. Thank god hardcore league created people with such egocentric mind.

anyway im not elite in real world, so i stay in standard ;)