So, tell me how extra stash slots are not pay to win.

I just put on my chestplate or the secretary. It adds +1 to all organizational skill gems socketed into it, and gives a 50% bonus to filing. My stash is as tidy as a porn stars anus.

That was gross. even I admit to that.

By your logic, same can be said for full respec. You can just make a new character, level it, and get the same effect. Not p2w at all.

Heck, they could even sell skill gems. You can just level a different class and get that gem through the quests. Just takes more time. Not p2w at all.

You know what, i felt that event the weapon grow are pay to win as when you pvp, you saw that such glowing gear, you may stun for 0.5sec, and that little time may cause you death. Trust me, it happen, and is obvious p2p. Pet may distract you, and the awesome skill effect will scare your opponent too.

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tinghshi wrote:

By your logic, same can be said for full respec. You can just make a new character, level it, and get the same effect. Not p2w at all.

Heck, they could even sell skill gems. You can just level a different class and get that gem through the quests. Just takes more time. Not p2w at all.

Shhhh!!! Don't tell the ostrich sheeples about the elephant in the room!!!

OP sure is salty about not supporting a good F2P game and an indie developer

Stash tabs, at least in the alternative Dimension of Extreme Exaggerations, which some of you seem to inhabit, might be considered P2W in an abstract way.

But who cares? And why should we want them to push the line of P2W further with respecs or other things? Not that they would. At least I hope they won't give in to whining on that point.

It's a grey area where the revenue far outweighs the very very slight gameplay advantage. I want GGG to not go bankrupt.

GGG talked about this to us in CB, but the general playerbase just concluded it wasn't a huge deal, and that stash tabs would likely be the best income source for GGG for a while anyhow. 4 tabs is enough for most people. Honestly if you are THAT into the game, it would be unethical to NOT put money into the game IMO, but that is no justification for the idea of Pay 2 Win.

In the end they weren't comfortable with the idea entirely, but it seems that it is only impactful to certain players. I for one find 4 tabs fine for now.

Its a tough choice, but in the end tabs are not massively impactful for most players. With 24 accounts you can use them all for extra storage as well if you want. I don't imagine most people will use more than 10 or so characters. Like I said before if you are seriously so into the game that this doesn't suffice paying for the stash tabs is almost expected because some would consider it wrong to not have to pony up something for playing the game that hard.

But this is just my standpoint, I'm sure there are others.

Did we run out of legitimate complaints so now we're going way out on a limb to cry about things?

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PSGMud wrote:

5x of the same item type = one free reroll of that item. Basically the action of a chaos orb.
1 piece of rare gear for every slot = chaos orb

This is tremendously taxing on the stash. Infact, it can be down right impossible, if you're doing this for all the gear you need end game. Not, only that item level comes into play as well.

Most of the gems and orbs can take up an entire tab, it leaves with less potential real stash storage slots.

Once you reach end game, you simply have to buy in order to play a part of the game, the economy. And, if you don't, there simply isn't any room for aesthetic or sentimental items.

Let me fix that for you.

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PSGMud wrote:

I'm trying to find every way possible to complain about something I have to pay for!"

Get over yourself.

Now I'm not trying to be mean, but c'mon man. This game is completely free. Just because you have to pay for something that's nice to have, isn't the end of the world. I don't have any extra stashes but I'm managing just fine. Stop complaining and play this awesome game. Even better, support the developer who decided to offer this for free instead of for $60, of which it is CLEARLY worth.