Let's talk about Dual Wielding...

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Vipermagi wrote:

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Opinionated wrote:

I am still waiting for some kind of source that says what monster armour is currently. Wiki has no source.

The wiki links to VDoom's post, which has a link to a stream where Neon throws out top-end toughest monster armour numbers.

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Opinionated wrote:

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Vipermagi wrote:

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Opinionated wrote:

I am still waiting for some kind of source that says what monster armour is currently. Wiki has no source.

The wiki links to VDoom's post, which has a link to a stream where Neon throws out top-end toughest monster armour numbers.

When you go to said stream, at said time stamp, there is no mention of this armour.

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kolp wrote:

Hey Mark, thanks for popping in and clearing up some of our questions/concerns. Would you mind commenting why elemental attack damage was excluded from the recent buff? I understand it wasn't feasible to buff apsd, but to not include elemental damage is puzzling.

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Freesland2 wrote:

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kolp wrote:

Hey Mark, thanks for popping in and clearing up some of our questions/concerns. Would you mind commenting why elemental attack damage was excluded from the recent buff? I understand it wasn't feasible to buff apsd, but to not include elemental damage is puzzling.

This, please just answer this.

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Opinionated wrote:

Ah sorry I was not listening but reading :x .

So what is the hold up? Someone make a list of monster life values. From there we can get a good idea of monster resistance values. And btw does the guy that supplied the armour values work for ggg?

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ancalagon3000 wrote:

So glad they shut you up and humbled you for me :)

I am not late on anything, you said hatred and added fire would double dip if dual wield got a 20% more to all damage multiplier. I stated a fact, they would not. No one asked for a separate buff to elemental damage. And you clearly do not know what the word double dip means here. A 20% more damage multi is the same thing as say conc effect with cyclone and hatred, there is no double dipping.

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Opinionated wrote:

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ancalagon3000 wrote:

it is <1k, which means 95%+ of physical builds are getting the vast, vast majority of their dmg in

Really, why every single element build tries to sacrifice a gem slot for a pen gem? Monster resists eat up a lot of elemental dmg

And how do you know how much armour monsters have?

This talk about elemental vs physical is nonsense. Hatred and added fire both get a buff from dual wielding. All skills that convert physical to elemental damage get a buff from dual wielding. If they gave elemental damage a separate buff then physical builds will double dip.

*Edit* I just did an in-game test. I gain 1100 cold and 1100 fire damage, just from dual wielding. I am not even using a mirror weapon. I gain 2.2k dps just from dual wielding.

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kolp wrote:

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Freesland2 wrote:

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kolp wrote:

Hey Mark, thanks for popping in and clearing up some of our questions/concerns. Would you mind commenting why elemental attack damage was excluded from the recent buff? I understand it wasn't feasible to buff apsd, but to not include elemental damage is puzzling.

This, please just answer this.

Yeah, it's odd. Mark even posted since I asked for clarification, but didn't address why elemental was excluded. He might not even know the specifics of exactly why, I can't keep track of which Devs are in charge of what (I thought Qarl was the balance guy?).

Anyway, it's their game anyway, and they don't owe us any response. It's nice when they do throw us a bone though.