Undying Evangelist A few questions?

you can always just go 2 evangelists and 2 flame sents or something.

So those bubbles block 100% damage from outside the bubble?

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Asmosis wrote:

So those bubbles block 100% damage from outside the bubble?

looks like it. This clearly was designed against the player, as caster/ranged monster ai will never try to get close into the bubble.

Honestly I can see GGG changing it in the future for bubble to only affect evangelists themselves. I think if someone posts video of taking dominus hand of god in the 78 map and receiving zero damage from it, it will probably suffice, lol

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Im going to play around some more, but increased duration gem with quality, if Im thinking correctly, can provide some ridiculous uptime for the bubble.

Tell me if this works please xD. I didn't notice but that bubble could be a duration based spell.

Also concentrated effect will make the bubble smaller really decreasing the chance of something hitting you while standing in that small area.

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mattc3303 wrote:

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Im going to play around some more, but increased duration gem with quality, if Im thinking correctly, can provide some ridiculous uptime for the bubble.

Tell me if this works please xD. I didn't notice but that bubble could be a duration based spell.

Also concentrated effect will make the bubble smaller really decreasing the chance of something hitting you while standing in that small area.

Played around some more with them.

Incr duration works ! I only have a lvl 18 nonq gem and this makes them to have a reaaaly short downtime. I imagine a 20/20 incr. Duration will make it less than a second. The worse news is if you ever engage mobs on their downtime youll have target away or move for them to activate the bubble....or just kill the pack

I dont wanna say the n word but i feel this is so op that its sure to get nerfed once people realize the bubbles power


Tested it on merci dominus. I do have 80resists, but:

Took ZERO damage from his projectiles
Took ZERO damage from his searing bond with some of totems outside the bubble
Took ZERO damage from his nuke hand of god...

More notes:

I said fast cast is almost mandatory, I think I was completely wrong. Its nearly useless.

They still need leech, at least on 73+ maps

Size of the bubble optimal is closer to big than small. Small one desyncs a ton and cannot protect other spectres. But u don't want a crazy big one either.

My setup is biased toward else damage, so to me, 2 sentinels+1 evangelist setup is ideal. Still fast clears and some serious tankiness.

Why faster casting is useless? They cast faster = more dps...

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delgar89 wrote:

Why faster casting is useless? They cast faster = more dps...

I dont notice very much difference with fast cast or without. not much dps difference, for sure

for some spectres, its extremely noticeable. take sentinels with fast cast or tittybitches with fast attacks. for these guys, not so much.

I think what happens is that they draw the circles faster, but the time between them is the same. if that makes sense.

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delgar89 wrote:

Why faster casting is useless? They cast faster = more dps...

The problem is their skill's cooldown, they could cast faster but the cooldown won't allow the delay between first hit and last hit faster.

better replace it with minion damage, increases chance to crit, increase aoe.... or add some debuff like blind (Evangelist with blind helped me cover zombies pretty well and the proc rate are amazing :D)

Increased duration is incredibly broken on them. Pretty much a 97% uptime lol.

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grepman wrote:

I dont wanna say the n word but i feel this is so op that its sure to get nerfed once people realize the bubbles power


Tested it on merci dominus. I do have 80resists, but:

Took ZERO damage from his projectiles
Took ZERO damage from his searing bond with some of totems outside the bubble
Took ZERO damage from his nuke hand of god...

I'm glad that GGG still show some love to summoner by made Evangelist after the massive aura nerf.

I know the bubble shield is OP but it won't make you immortal, I dead so many times just because my build are so squishy (i'm not geared), the bubble turn off while me and my undeads facing with other nuke monsters.

Oh and there still have a lot of more OP build around there (infinite freeze, non-stop life leech with high IIQ,IIR; auto cast...).

I also tried the evangelists as prots for other damage dealers. In my case both sentinels and incinerators. But they stay to shortly in the bubble, thanks to their AI... and especially for incinerators its mostly 1shot-lights-out in maps. Sentinels are a bit more durable, but non the less not long enough protected to really matter.
So I skipped it.
Btw... I cannot advise to use increased area... the moment I give it to evangelists they tend to only run into melee range and hitting things with their claws... no idea why... :S
Plus, a bigger bubble means a bigger leathality radius for the spectres.
So far my best experience is with... concentrated effect... even some "melee"-ranged enemies can't damage them then (for example these suicide bombers like merveils spawns or aliras men)
Dominus' Zombies sadly still hit em...
Only very fast acting enemies are annoying, like croaking chimeras. But freeze mine solves that problem.