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But I'm a fucking sick individual who believes firmly in the power of prevention rather than rehabilitation.


I think it's debatable that destroying the life of a kid is good prevention for others to not follow.


Probably but it's not as if he'll actually go to prison for the full 8 years. Not a chance in hell. He's the centre of something too significant now.

His life is already irrevocably changed by this event. I wouldn't say 'destroyed' but definitely changed.

Also, what's this bullshit about calling a 19 year old a kid? If you're not mature enough by 19 to not make jokes of that nature on the internet and then cry you had no idea someone might take it seriously, I'm sorry, you're not a kid, you're a fucking loser.

The only tragedy is because 'kids these days don't watch tv or read the newspaper' to paraphrase the father, none of the little fucks who still use the internet as their verbal firing range will hear about it and know that at least one of their foul kind got theirs.


I apologize I only briefly skipped the thread and wasn't aware that he's 19 and I agree with what you wrote.

Nevertheless, the point I wanted to make is that if he goes to jail, no matter if it's 8 years or 1 year, his life will be severly fucked. I don't know what his plans are for the future but I imagine that if he goes to jail he can forget about ever getting a good job. So while I agree that writing something like that is completly fucking stupid and should be punished, I don't really think it's enough to ruin his future.
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'ignorance' and 'a lack of understanding about public space'

yes violent threats online are silly, kids need to learn how to be anonymous

this is the thin edge of the wedge as always: if you say something homophobic, racist, sexist, or transphobic, you have committed a hate crime and need to check your privilege
Let the games begin
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And yet this was Austin, not Houston -- the former I've always believed to be a slightly weirder and yet infinitely more sane locale than Houston.

Go figure.

My point stands, by the bye. If there were actual repercussions for being a loudmouth fuckwit online other than a PMed warning and maybe a day in the naughty box (oh, but you can still play if you want!), the internet would be a nicer place. And please don't cite bullshit infringement of rights and that such a move would be the 'beginning of the end'. That's like saying we should all be able to say 'nigger' in public because, you know, FREEDOM OF SPEECH!...and technically, you can. You won't be arrested for it, but it certainly wouldn't be the right thing to say in public, would it?

Because there are repercussions. Moral, at the very least. People will treat you differently. As well they should.

Not so online, where you can wear masks and change names and pretend it was all a big joke.

Joke's on you, Justin Carter.

It's a pretty slippery slope, Charan. Who is determining what is acceptable and what isn't? Where does it end? Once you start making it illegal for someone to say certain things, it very quickly can go further than that. How long before everyone has to smile and be extra polite to every single person they meet at all times? Be happy, or you'll be sent off to the corn field.
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It's an extremely stupid threat to make, but in the context of the violence worshiping culture of the US it's unsurprising.
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r/communism is that way Charan >>>>
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Let the games begin
my rights end where your feelings begin charan

Let the games begin
Why do people keep calling this a threat? It's clearly a sarcastic (and badly done) joke.
It's not like he posted it out of the blue. He was replying directly to "something to the effect of 'Oh you're insane, you're crazy, you're messed up in the head'". He used hyperbole and sarcasm as a retort to being called insane.

Anybody who thinks he deserves any jail time for this (he's already been held for several months) makes me fucking sick.

Also the woman who reported him is a fucking idiot.
I'm just hoping CharanJaydemyr doesn't decide to buy his way into public office.

The world needs more free speech not less. End of fucking story.
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Honestly, the "kid" shouldn't go to jail at all..
I agree with you in some sence..people really take their libertys a lot farther online then they'd ever do in real life..no doubt.
Now, i'm not saying you can't or shouldn't, but rething before doing it..easy as that. Would i say this in a fully crowded cafeteria with kids and their parents? probably not..
And to dickheads ranting about massacres, gay-rapes or what fucking not...this is where i don't see jailtime as a solution...cause they clearly have no fucking idea whatsoever about what the fuck they're talking about..
Instead, talk massacres with the Iraki guy who had his whole fucking family blown to smithereens, or the rape victim who can't leave home alone for 10 mins cause the psyche is so fucked up that scuicide seems like a trip to the carneval, or why not say nigger to the black guy with so many burn-marks on his body, looking like a damn topographic map..let those guys have a chat with people who feel their right to express themselves however they want instead..i guarantee you they'll have a new view on things after that, cause i sure as hell do...
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You've made your stance clear, although it's lacking in what I'd call acceptable argumentation.

Nothing will change your stance, so I think we're done.


That wasn't a reply to you. We were already done. Get over yourself.

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