{3.2.0} Spectral Gods: [Life Based Spectre/Golem Hybrid Summoner | Clear Speed | End Game Bossing]

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KatfishGumbo wrote:

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I was pretty sure that when you raise a blue monster you get the basic one... Am I missing sth?

It was changed this patch:

edit: got it

"Magic, Rare and Unique monsters have a damage bonus built into their rarity - this will now also apply to any damage over time they cause."

dont think that carries over to minions. Pretty sure it was to just get +1 levels on them, so a blue monster in a 66 map is actually 67.

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KatfishGumbo wrote:

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I was pretty sure that when you raise a blue monster you get the basic one... Am I missing sth?

It was changed this patch:

edit: got it

"Magic, Rare and Unique monsters have a damage bonus built into their rarity - this will now also apply to any damage over time they cause."

From what i understand pre-patch rare monsters did "normal monster" burn/dot damage something that is now fixed. But do spectres count that extra build-in damage from rares/blues?.. cause i think they just summon its basic form.
I have no reason not to believe you, you might have tested this but i need someone else to confirm too, cause if its true its changes alot.

PS sry from OP for the off-topic...

Anyways, here is a snippet from the gamepedia wiki

"Although magic and rare enemy corpses can be used to create Spectres, the Spectres will be the normal version of that monster type, not magic or rare, and totally lacking any unique mods they may have had."

Feel free to test it. I'm not saying you won't get boosted damage, but your not gonna get more damage than what a 67 or 68 mob would have had (assuming the map is 66, magic and rare respectively).

From the man himself about 5 pages previous in this thread:

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So I grabbed some lvl 75 BM's from a demon map things just fall over and die before I can even curse them lmao.

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KatfishGumbo wrote:

From the man himself about 5 pages previous in this thread:

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So I grabbed some lvl 75 BM's from a demon map things just fall over and die before I can even curse them lmao.

Yeah we understand higher level BMs do more damage, BUT.....

You will gain NO bonus damage from Champ or Rare BMs other than a higher base level

Spectres will still downgrade if you move into lower level zones

So yeah, getting a Blue BM is nice, but its far from being mandatory by any means since your just getting a BM that is +1 level of the map your running (who won't even be able to use it in that map anyways).

I've looked throughout this thread quite a bit and still don't understand the point of trap. I understand remote mine, but what's the point of trap (which trap specifically)? Also, how do you get remote mine to summon the right corpse? Great guide btw. Keep updating!

We are refering to the support gem called Trap. It gives a more multiplier and works the same way remote mine does.

In order to use it you are required to get a sunblast belt (the unique that triggers traps after it expires)

To get the right corpse get rid of all the corpse around that isn't what your trying to summon. Place your remote mine near the corpse and detonate.

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To end the discussion when you raise a mob(any mob) they will revert back to their white form so no magic and rare damage boost will not apply.

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foxlin wrote:

I've looked throughout this thread quite a bit and still don't understand the point of trap. I understand remote mine, but what's the point of trap (which trap specifically)? Also, how do you get remote mine to summon the right corpse? Great guide btw. Keep updating!

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Trap_%28support_gem%29

34% Multiplier Support. Using Sunblast Belt makes it easier to trigger. Its simply another way to significantly boost damage alongside remote mine.

Non-CoD Spectre

Remote Mine > Trap > Minion Life > Minion Damage > Increased Burning Damage

CoD Spectre

Cast on Death > Minion Life > Minion Damage > Increased Burning Damage > Empower

Saves me some time. Thanks Moose. Not sure why I thought the blue made a difference other than level.

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KatfishGumbo wrote:

Saves me some time. Thanks Moose. Not sure why I thought the blue made a difference other than level.

but i dont see the point of roling a 66 demoninc map 70 or higher i would understand...