jsp and PoE

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:


Never even heard of jsp when I was playing on Bnet from 97 till about, oh, 2007 or so, with significant breaks. It just wasn't discussed in my chosen circles I guess. The first time I heard about real money being used to buy Diablo 2 gear I think I actually laughed at the screen.


I think more people would laugh at the idea of someone spending $1000 on a video game than someone spending $50 to directly improve their gameplay experience.
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jackals1234 wrote:
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CharanJaydemyr wrote:


Never even heard of jsp when I was playing on Bnet from 97 till about, oh, 2007 or so, with significant breaks. It just wasn't discussed in my chosen circles I guess. The first time I heard about real money being used to buy Diablo 2 gear I think I actually laughed at the screen.


I think more people would laugh at the idea of someone spending $1000 on a video game than someone spending $50 to directly improve their gameplay experience.


the is a big difference. we donate and get a "idea" in the game. others buy items you can get in the game already to become better then others, instead of finding the items themselves. i personally pref to find the items myself or trade ingame items ingame to get what im seeking.

it is after all the point of the game.
"Bullshit, you get the game for free." - Qarl 2014
"The 5x Diamond Supporter"
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jackals1234 wrote:
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CharanJaydemyr wrote:


Never even heard of jsp when I was playing on Bnet from 97 till about, oh, 2007 or so, with significant breaks. It just wasn't discussed in my chosen circles I guess. The first time I heard about real money being used to buy Diablo 2 gear I think I actually laughed at the screen.


I think more people would laugh at the idea of someone spending $1000 on a video game than someone spending $50 to directly improve their gameplay experience.


With wording like that you can make anything look stupid :-P.
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jackals1234 wrote:
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CharanJaydemyr wrote:


Never even heard of jsp when I was playing on Bnet from 97 till about, oh, 2007 or so, with significant breaks. It just wasn't discussed in my chosen circles I guess. The first time I heard about real money being used to buy Diablo 2 gear I think I actually laughed at the screen.


I think more people would laugh at the idea of someone spending $1000 on a video game than someone spending $50 to directly improve their gameplay experience.
Honestly, I'd rather pay $1000 to support an indie company making the game that I've always wanted to play. It doesn't hurt to be forever immortalized in the game and to know that I was a part of something awesome. I think spending money to improve my gameplay experience in that regard is just silly but I can certainly understand why people to do it. To each his own.
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jackals1234 wrote:
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CharanJaydemyr wrote:


Never even heard of jsp when I was playing on Bnet from 97 till about, oh, 2007 or so, with significant breaks. It just wasn't discussed in my chosen circles I guess. The first time I heard about real money being used to buy Diablo 2 gear I think I actually laughed at the screen.


I think more people would laugh at the idea of someone spending $1000 on a video game than someone spending $50 to directly improve their gameplay experience.


The reason I laughed is because I never took D2 that seriously! Not at a PvP level, anyway. I just used whatever I found or traded with friends.

My support is a completely different situation -- I got to design an item and watch people either adulate unto it or (far more common) complain about how much it sucks in chat. It's wonderful, really. The ego boost is beyond description. ^_^

Let's not make this about 'money' alone, alrighty? The point was that jsp and other sites where you buy in-game items are all about buying something you can technically get for free if you play long enough. You cannot get most of the things my support of GGG/PoE has yielded for free. In fact, none of them.

If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between.

I am Path of Exile's biggest whale. Period.
I'm not ragging on people spending $1000 on this game. I'm merely pointing out the hypocrisy in thinking it "ridiculous" to spend real money on in-game items while at the same time thinking it reasonable spending excessively MORE real money on creating an in-game item (amongst other things, all virtual). Whether you can technically get the items in-game for free or not is hardly the point.

Personally, i've never bought anything myself but i COMPLETELY understand why people do. Especially those who have a healthy income but limited play time.
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CharanJaydemyr wrote:
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jackals1234 wrote:
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CharanJaydemyr wrote:


Never even heard of jsp when I was playing on Bnet from 97 till about, oh, 2007 or so, with significant breaks. It just wasn't discussed in my chosen circles I guess. The first time I heard about real money being used to buy Diablo 2 gear I think I actually laughed at the screen.


I think more people would laugh at the idea of someone spending $1000 on a video game than someone spending $50 to directly improve their gameplay experience.


The reason I laughed is because I never took D2 that seriously! Not at a PvP level, anyway. I just used whatever I found or traded with friends.

My support is a completely different situation -- I got to design an item and watch people either adulate unto it or (far more common) complain about how much it sucks in chat. It's wonderful, really. The ego boost is beyond description. ^_^

Let's not make this about 'money' alone, alrighty? The point was that jsp and other sites where you buy in-game items are all about buying something you can technically get for free if you play long enough. You cannot get most of the things my support of GGG/PoE has yielded for free. In fact, none of them.



Id rather spend 1000$ on in-game items than.. 1000$ creating my own.

What has your enormous amount of support granted you that noone else can have, besides a pet and an item named after you?

I don't see how thats an ego boost, id just laugh if someone did it to boost there epeen. That and the fact that only noobs probably boost your ego with it by gloating or hating over an item they probably will never have.
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I had to check what d2jsp is. I know that sites where you can buy gear exist, but didnt know what d2jsp is.

To the point.
If you use these sites to get gear for real money (or any kind of currency which is not part of the game) you can think of it as BUYING POWER.

If GGG wanted players to be able to buy power, they would add micro-transactions that do it.

They clearly stated that players will be able to buy cosmetic stuff only (and stash tabs/character slots).

Big NO to pay to win! No matter who you pay(player/dev/3rd part site)

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Deux wrote:
Id rather spend 1000$ on in-game items than.. 1000$ creating my own.

What has your enormous amount of support granted you that noone else can have, besides a pet and an item named after you?

I don't see how thats an ego boost, id just laugh if someone did it to boost there epeen. That and the fact that only noobs probably boost your ego with it by gloating or hating over an item they probably will never have.
I think you're looking at it for all the wrong reasons. Instead of looking at what virtual goods you get for your cash, look at where your money is actually going.

Pay GGG -- support the game developers.
Pay some random guy -- support some random, unethical guy.

One gives you a gameplay advantage. The other gives you personal satisfaction and the enjoyment of being part of the game.
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I used d2jsp before; but not because I want to buy items with real money, but because d2 lacks a proper trading platform.

It's very hard to go game to game, asking random person "WUG" and then see if he has items you would want to buy. Even making your own game specific what you want takes very long time to find a trader; and sometimes that trader doesn't want the item you're offering for it.

What d2jsp do, is provide a trading platform for players, buying fg with real money is just their way of making money from it.

PoE, while still in beta; already have a decent enough way to find buyer in game. It still can be improved, as you can't trade with player not online the same time with you, but there's no need for a third party.


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As to buying something virtual with real money; really? You're willing to give money to some rich guy, but not willing to give those to support the game that you like so much you are buying its virtual items?

Think this for a second, if everyone is like you, greedy, and wants to get only the most out of their money, buying fg for virtual items instead of supporting the game. The game company will go bankrupt, and you bet all these virtual items you just bought with real money will disappear, along with your "plvl'd" level 80 chars.

No? Or are you saying that you're smarter to use d2jsp while some other "dumb" people donate their money to GGG? Then you, my friend, is truly ignorant.

We know what we will get from the start, and yet we decided to donate that to the game. Because we felt the game deserves it. Hell, even if there's no prize for donating, I'm sure a lot people are still willing to donate.

Just look at how active the employers are, look at how much effort they try to make the UI more friendlier, make skill description as clear as possible, bugs/glitch as few as possible, and they are even trying to answer as much questions as possible. There is constant interactions between the developers and the players; not many game company have that today, most go with the fancy route that will attract new players (and give crappy game experience).


I first played during the stress-weekend, I then bought a beta key to continue playing; then just recently I upgraded to silver because I realized I have played much more than games that I have spent $20~60 dollar on.

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