Not another ExSea is quitting POE thread - TLDR I'm loving LE

because i already left when i said i m leaving.

but i m back on the forums!

why?

i've been playing LE a huge lot. there are 2 things i hate about LE.

the first is the graphics and animation. POE1/2 is magnitudes beyond LE.

the second is LE is not as "classless" as POE where you can use any gear with no class restrictions, similarly most skills are not tied to classes.

but theres where my complains end. beyond that i am having pure unbridled fun.

its real weird.

POE1 was the BEST GAME i ever played for 10 years. but the reality was it was the best OPTION i had. i always knew the game direction kept going in a way i didnt like, but it was still the best. there were a lot of design philosophies that i disagreed with. there were a lot of shortcomings. but i ate them all.

i also threw a large amount of cash at GGG because i wanted them to make the game i would enjoy till the day i died. as they said. a forever game.

but all that was just pure copium on my side. for the best game ever. many things happened that made me feel upset. outraged. depressed even. even helped give me heart issues lol. but i kept making excuses for the game.

poe2 will fix everything. until it didnt. poe1 is a gone game to me. i'm pretty sure GGG will always have poe1 to fall back to and ton of you guys enjoy poe1 with 100 times more passion than i do.

poe2 on the other hand, has a lot of promise. its GORGEOUS. it has so many things that i would want in a d-like. but GGG is stuck in many ways. they want to make the game deliberate but expectations from POE1 are just too great. POE1 enjoyers want zoom zoom. which is a direct contradiction to deliberate combat. deliberate combat cannot exist with zoom zoom as zoom zoom will always be the desired goal for players. there simply is NO WAY to balance a game into having both. actually there is one way i can think of, which is making zoom zoom obscenely difficult to get to, but is there as an aspiration. by the time you get there you would have won the game.

also, how do you balance a game with over 12 ascendancies and a buttload of skills, supports and gear?

poe1 is a curse on GGG's shoulders. they want to make poe2 new but they've bitten off a huge bite that they can't chew. i always defended them. i always said, let them cook. the moment they showed us the spear skills, i m like. hmmm.... this is gonna turn zoomy pretty soon. and was i wrong? sadly no. now we can see many players using the spear skills like RF just walking around enemies and melting them to death. GGG could rebalance em but i m guessing poe2 is at least 2-5 years more before they can get it in a comfortable place.

i m surprised that GGG did so many nerfs which is something i m happy that they did. its showing that they really are trying to bring player power levels down.

but the fact that they have those near spear aoes skills. how is that not going to be zoomy? i find it disgusting that i've asked for trumelee dash attacks for so long and ggg is gearlocking it onto spears.

aw shiznits. why.

that said. my confidence for GGG has waned. i played poe1 for 10 years and the ironic part was. i didnt know i actually HATED poe. as i said. it was the best option. there literally wasnt anything better. its like growing up on an island where the only source of food is literal mudcakes. i grew up enjoying mudcakes because i refused to move out of the island. but that was also because other islands were shitty too.

i learned to love something i should have hated to its core.

poe is stingy with loot.
poe early game feels bad.
poe's crafting is amazing but paired with it's stingy loot drops its practically non existant to regular players.
gap between weak players and stronger ones are stupidly huge.

theres more that i m too lazy to list out as this post is long enough already.

when i played LE. i never felt like i needed trade. from the get go i was getting upgrades for my character. pretty early on i learned to engage with crafting, upgrading my boots. i quickly got to T20 gear. T20 are similar to 6 prefix t1 rolls in poe. no influence or ascended rolls etc. its pretty solid and i have a good degree of influencing the crafting process. to get past t20 and to eventually go into Legendary gear. its a lot and i m crafting all the way.

the amount of drops i get feels so sufficient. FUCK the "game drops balanced around trade" philosophy. fuck trade. trade is responsible for ruining my happiness in modern gaming. trade gives the devs an excuse to make things drop in the stingiest manner possible. in fact i remember how GGG introduced area level penalty to discourage low level farming. which indirectly meant, the weaker you are, the harder it is to get stronger. if you're overleveled but cant kill harder stuff, you're stuck low level areas which get affected by the level difference penalty.

then when you die at later levels you get slappend with a death penalty. if you run a map and lose it. you lose the map. period.

here i am just NOT having to deal with all that shit in LE. my early game all the way to the end was not a grindfest. i didnt need to waste my time looking for silly things such as sockets, links and colours. i just kept moving forward. i just kept having fun.

got to end game. sucked. died in a map. i could redo the map albeit with the reward removed. in most cases i m never severely punished for dying. there are some levels of punishment but it seems so inconsequential that i dont care.

i dont worry about ITEM HAVING WEIGHT. i carry tons of stuff on my character. certain items are vacuumed on pick up and auto stashed outside of my regular inventory. less clicking, less tedium. i can concentrate on just killing shit.

theres just so much fun i m experiencing. fun that i have not enjoyed for many years simply because i believed that POE was the best game ever. i believed that all these friction was important for me to enjoy the game.

but it turns out. i was wrong.

I HATED ALL THIS FRICTION. it was overly punishing. it was gatekeeping. it was grindy AF. all i was doing all the time was farming yellow juice or some other bullshit to get divines to buy shit off of trade.

sometimes on this forum people will just read these posts of mine and say see you next league.

they're not wrong. i've tucked my tail many times and came back crawling. what can i say? POE was still king.

in fact some people insisted i was burnt out and just needed time away from POE.

i ll be real to say, i do miss POE. the boss fights. SIRUS and his epic OST. which got topped by Exarch's OST. Lioneye's watch A1N1. oshabi's UwU boss music OST. theyre all awesome. theres just so much awesomeness that POE has. too much. till this very day whenever i go home from work i would tell myself "cant wait to go home and play POE". POE had been ingrained to me as a synonym for gaming. i have to then correct myself. MHWilds or LE. i mostly play LE now.

now i remember poe with rosetinted glasses somewhat.

poe has been a huge part of my life. near a quarter of it i guess? lol. might be more. i've spent so much time, effort and money on this game.

many times people say stuf to me that i dont like to hear. "this game isnt for you".

i was always so passionate, giving tons of feedback and suggestions. all because i WANT poe to be a game for me. I WANT to love POE.

but now i've realized. you guys were right all these while. POE simply isnt for me. i m done not having fun. i m done pretending GGG didnt carelessly tear away the sanctity of standard's permanency.

i've given enough to GGG. i do hope to come back one day but i doubt GGG would ever get to the point that they want to make the game fun.

they're stuck with d2 mindset. d2 was a pioneer. it was in a different time, a different era. times have changed. with that stubbornness, i only can see GGG doing the same thing over and over again. and they cant help it. GGG will cave in. i foresee poe2 being zoomy. money talks and players have learned to vote with their wallet.

i actually didnt vote with my wallet. i actually supported GGG all the way. in fact i had convinced myself that spending money on GGG was a good thing. the more money they had, the more likely the game would improve. improve it did but not in the direction that i wanted. but i still spent more money on them. is this stockholm syndrome? lol.


i dont even know if i want to try poe2 when its officially released anymore.

i am tired and too lazy to follow POE news anymore. in fact, LE has kept me so occupied i dont even bother.

will this be my last post? i really cant say with 100% certainty. as everytime i do. i come back. but in the here and now. theres nothing in poe that makes me want to play the game anymore.

I can't be bothered to read all that, LE is fun for a week or two like D4 but cya next league.

As usual welcome back

tl;dr

Asked ChatGPT to sum it up ;)

"The author expresses deep disillusionment with Path of Exile (POE), a game he played and financially supported for over a decade, realizing in hindsight that he tolerated many frustrating design choices simply due to a lack of better alternatives. After switching to Last Epoch (LE), he found it far more enjoyable thanks to smoother progression, rewarding crafting, and less punishing systems, despite its weaker graphics and class limitations. He criticizes POE for its reliance on trade, excessive friction, and outdated design philosophies that prioritize grind over fun. While he still appreciates POE’s boss fights, music, and emotional impact, he feels GGG has lost direction and no longer makes the game he once hoped it would become. Though he admits he might return someday, right now there's nothing in POE that makes him want to play again."

PoE 2 copied a few things from LE's endgame and made me smile/laugh when they revealed the PiE 2 endgame back in december. Also chat in PoE twitch channel at reveal day spammed (paraphrasing) "LE endgame","LE maps", etc.

-Towers = Beacons
-The way the endgame map looks with these connections
-Corruption (reverse here bit still)
-Lost map rewards when dying

"

Though he admits he might return someday

Yup, as expected.

"

exsea#1724 wrote:

because i already left when i said i m leaving.

but i m back on the forums!

why?

i've been playing LE a huge lot. there are 2 things i hate about LE.

the first is the graphics and animation. POE1/2 is magnitudes beyond LE.

the second is LE is not as "classless" as POE where you can use any gear with no class restrictions, similarly most skills are not tied to classes.

but theres where my complains end. beyond that i am having pure unbridled fun.

its real weird.

POE1 was the BEST GAME i ever played for 10 years. but the reality was it was the best OPTION i had. i always knew the game direction kept going in a way i didnt like, but it was still the best. there were a lot of design philosophies that i disagreed with. there were a lot of shortcomings. but i ate them all.

i also threw a large amount of cash at GGG because i wanted them to make the game i would enjoy till the day i died. as they said. a forever game.

but all that was just pure copium on my side. for the best game ever. many things happened that made me feel upset. outraged. depressed even. even helped give me heart issues lol. but i kept making excuses for the game.

poe2 will fix everything. until it didnt. poe1 is a gone game to me. i'm pretty sure GGG will always have poe1 to fall back to and ton of you guys enjoy poe1 with 100 times more passion than i do.

poe2 on the other hand, has a lot of promise. its GORGEOUS. it has so many things that i would want in a d-like. but GGG is stuck in many ways. they want to make the game deliberate but expectations from POE1 are just too great. POE1 enjoyers want zoom zoom. which is a direct contradiction to deliberate combat. deliberate combat cannot exist with zoom zoom as zoom zoom will always be the desired goal for players. there simply is NO WAY to balance a game into having both. actually there is one way i can think of, which is making zoom zoom obscenely difficult to get to, but is there as an aspiration. by the time you get there you would have won the game.

also, how do you balance a game with over 12 ascendancies and a buttload of skills, supports and gear?

poe1 is a curse on GGG's shoulders. they want to make poe2 new but they've bitten off a huge bite that they can't chew. i always defended them. i always said, let them cook. the moment they showed us the spear skills, i m like. hmmm.... this is gonna turn zoomy pretty soon. and was i wrong? sadly no. now we can see many players using the spear skills like RF just walking around enemies and melting them to death. GGG could rebalance em but i m guessing poe2 is at least 2-5 years more before they can get it in a comfortable place.

i m surprised that GGG did so many nerfs which is something i m happy that they did. its showing that they really are trying to bring player power levels down.

but the fact that they have those near spear aoes skills. how is that not going to be zoomy? i find it disgusting that i've asked for trumelee dash attacks for so long and ggg is gearlocking it onto spears.

aw shiznits. why.

that said. my confidence for GGG has waned. i played poe1 for 10 years and the ironic part was. i didnt know i actually HATED poe. as i said. it was the best option. there literally wasnt anything better. its like growing up on an island where the only source of food is literal mudcakes. i grew up enjoying mudcakes because i refused to move out of the island. but that was also because other islands were shitty too.

i learned to love something i should have hated to its core.

poe is stingy with loot.
poe early game feels bad.
poe's crafting is amazing but paired with it's stingy loot drops its practically non existant to regular players.
gap between weak players and stronger ones are stupidly huge.

theres more that i m too lazy to list out as this post is long enough already.

when i played LE. i never felt like i needed trade. from the get go i was getting upgrades for my character. pretty early on i learned to engage with crafting, upgrading my boots. i quickly got to T20 gear. T20 are similar to 6 prefix t1 rolls in poe. no influence or ascended rolls etc. its pretty solid and i have a good degree of influencing the crafting process. to get past t20 and to eventually go into Legendary gear. its a lot and i m crafting all the way.

the amount of drops i get feels so sufficient. FUCK the "game drops balanced around trade" philosophy. fuck trade. trade is responsible for ruining my happiness in modern gaming. trade gives the devs an excuse to make things drop in the stingiest manner possible. in fact i remember how GGG introduced area level penalty to discourage low level farming. which indirectly meant, the weaker you are, the harder it is to get stronger. if you're overleveled but cant kill harder stuff, you're stuck low level areas which get affected by the level difference penalty.

then when you die at later levels you get slappend with a death penalty. if you run a map and lose it. you lose the map. period.

here i am just NOT having to deal with all that shit in LE. my early game all the way to the end was not a grindfest. i didnt need to waste my time looking for silly things such as sockets, links and colours. i just kept moving forward. i just kept having fun.

got to end game. sucked. died in a map. i could redo the map albeit with the reward removed. in most cases i m never severely punished for dying. there are some levels of punishment but it seems so inconsequential that i dont care.

i dont worry about ITEM HAVING WEIGHT. i carry tons of stuff on my character. certain items are vacuumed on pick up and auto stashed outside of my regular inventory. less clicking, less tedium. i can concentrate on just killing shit.

theres just so much fun i m experiencing. fun that i have not enjoyed for many years simply because i believed that POE was the best game ever. i believed that all these friction was important for me to enjoy the game.

but it turns out. i was wrong.

I HATED ALL THIS FRICTION. it was overly punishing. it was gatekeeping. it was grindy AF. all i was doing all the time was farming yellow juice or some other bullshit to get divines to buy shit off of trade.

sometimes on this forum people will just read these posts of mine and say see you next league.

they're not wrong. i've tucked my tail many times and came back crawling. what can i say? POE was still king.

in fact some people insisted i was burnt out and just needed time away from POE.

i ll be real to say, i do miss POE. the boss fights. SIRUS and his epic OST. which got topped by Exarch's OST. Lioneye's watch A1N1. oshabi's UwU boss music OST. theyre all awesome. theres just so much awesomeness that POE has. too much. till this very day whenever i go home from work i would tell myself "cant wait to go home and play POE". POE had been ingrained to me as a synonym for gaming. i have to then correct myself. MHWilds or LE. i mostly play LE now.

now i remember poe with rosetinted glasses somewhat.

poe has been a huge part of my life. near a quarter of it i guess? lol. might be more. i've spent so much time, effort and money on this game.

many times people say stuf to me that i dont like to hear. "this game isnt for you".

i was always so passionate, giving tons of feedback and suggestions. all because i WANT poe to be a game for me. I WANT to love POE.

but now i've realized. you guys were right all these while. POE simply isnt for me. i m done not having fun. i m done pretending GGG didnt carelessly tear away the sanctity of standard's permanency.

i've given enough to GGG. i do hope to come back one day but i doubt GGG would ever get to the point that they want to make the game fun.

they're stuck with d2 mindset. d2 was a pioneer. it was in a different time, a different era. times have changed. with that stubbornness, i only can see GGG doing the same thing over and over again. and they cant help it. GGG will cave in. i foresee poe2 being zoomy. money talks and players have learned to vote with their wallet.

i actually didnt vote with my wallet. i actually supported GGG all the way. in fact i had convinced myself that spending money on GGG was a good thing. the more money they had, the more likely the game would improve. improve it did but not in the direction that i wanted. but i still spent more money on them. is this stockholm syndrome? lol.


i dont even know if i want to try poe2 when its officially released anymore.

i am tired and too lazy to follow POE news anymore. in fact, LE has kept me so occupied i dont even bother.

will this be my last post? i really cant say with 100% certainty. as everytime i do. i come back. but in the here and now. theres nothing in poe that makes me want to play the game anymore.

All this text and the guy still gonna 40 challenge next patch if it comes out lol.

"

gandhar0#5532 wrote:

PoE 2 copied a few things from LE's endgame and made me smile/laugh when they revealed the PiE 2 endgame back in december. Also chat in PoE twitch channel at reveal day spammed (paraphrasing) "LE endgame","LE maps", etc.

-Towers = Beacons
-The way the endgame map looks with these connections
-Corruption (reverse here bit still)
-Lost map rewards when dying

yeah its like they combined delve and monoliths. theres a lot of similarities.

but i think borrowing from each other is good.

much better than blizzard, who stubbornly never want to acknowledge what other people are doing.

it makes me sad to see how far blizz has fallen. they were the innovators. but now other companies are leaving them behind.

they're stuck with their old formulas. probably stuck with their archaic inventory system too.

"

InuMagic#7397 wrote:

All this text and the guy still gonna 40 challenge next patch if it comes out lol.

phrecia has the lowest effort required to get the best challenge rewards. just need to hit 80. i cant even get myself to hit 80. lmao.

"

DoubleU#7266 wrote:

"

Though he admits he might return someday

Yup, as expected.

after all the shit i posted. yeah. i have learned not to say good bye forever. i have at least 2-3 "FUCK THIS GAME I M OUT FOREVER" type posts. and i kept coming back for one reason or another.

who knows.

then again i m not confident that the game will end up in a state that will entice me enough.

To me, it seems like your biggest fight is with yourself.

No game is perfect - every game has its flaws. We as player find our fun where we can. You currently find it in LE, which is fine and understandable, but after several "I quit" threads, it's pretty clear that you have a hard time letting PoE1 go. Why? Who the hell knows, maybe you're just addicted, maybe you're a romantic, thinking about "how it could've been".

As a player that has never hit 40/40, I'm still having a hard time grasping how someone can find the time, effort and will to grind to 40 in a game they don't like. But hey, everyone can't understand everything.

I think what I'm trying to say here, is... See you in 3.26. I will keep an eye on your achievements.

"

Phrazz#3529 wrote:

To me, it seems like your biggest fight is with yourself.

No game is perfect - every game has its flaws. We as player find our fun where we can. You currently find it in LE, which is fine and understandable, but after several "I quit" threads, it's pretty clear that you have a hard time letting PoE1 go. Why? Who the hell knows, maybe you're just addicted, maybe you're a romantic, thinking about "how it could've been".

As a player that has never hit 40/40, I'm still having a hard time grasping how someone can find the time, effort and will to grind to 40 in a game they don't like. But hey, everyone can't understand everything.

I think what I'm trying to say here, is... See you in 3.26. I will keep an eye on your achievements.

i m very heavily invested in poe. i loved how the game started back in open beta.

the things that i liked the most that drew me in:

1. Slow/deliberate combat
2. "Classless" game where the only difference in choosing a class is a different starting spot on the passive tree and early access to certain gems.
3. Tons of skills/supports/gear and huge ass passive tree allowing tons of build variety, Janky builds can be weak but still be somewhat viable.
4. The ability to craft your own items
5. A game that can be played "forever"/permanency

How it turned out:

1. Obliterate enemies in seconds or be super tanky that attacks dont matter. Choose one or both. anything in between will have a harder time.
2. Game introduced ascendancies, which gave a significant boost to player power but you kinda forced you to always use certain ascendancies. you arent forced to but you lose out a lot if you dont.
3. It's ironic that with so much complexity and options that the game offers, a huge part of the playerbase only follows builds. newer players are heavily encouraged to follow builds. one can argue theres still a gazillion viable builds but the fact is, the gap between builds is obscenely large. 100k dps vs millions and billions of dps. doing your own thing is largely a waste of time.
4. Crafting your own item is normally not worth the effort for most players. its almost always better to buy failed crafts from other players. Crafting is more or less non existent for a vast majority of players nor is it a viable mean of progress during leveling for non casters.
5. GGG doesnt care about standard as much as they used to. Also, POE2 was made separate rather than additional content for POE1.

in addition to what i mentioned in 5. i can tell you exactly why i stuck around for the past 5-6 years playing a game i "hated". it was all because of POE2's original announcement. the idea of quitting poe was creeping into my mind.

GGG kept releasing tougher content, each new content that was tougher rendered more builds non viable. gaps increased. hyper optimization was no longer a bonus but became a requirement.

it killed off a big reason why i enjoyed poe. the feeling of classlessness and the freedom of doing your own thing. in fact GGG did advertise the game as having no class at one point. unfortunately i can no longer find that post as it's lost in time. its over 10 years but i guess if i m bored enough i ll try searching again just to entertain myself.

but i digress. the POE2 announcement was huge. it promised to solve many things and improve one thing i care a huge lot about. which is melee combat. beyond that it showed me how GGG was going to make this game "eternal". if POE2 came to fruition based on the original announcement, it would mean all my hard work and effort on standard will pay off. every few years GGG could release a new POE and it would be layered on top of everything. POE3, POE4, POE5. i get to use my wealth accumulated from decades years of playing to become a god.

and thats where i put aside any notion i had of quitting to "keep farming to make myself stronger for POE2". i can tell you without lying, i HATED playing temp leagues. i seriously FUCKING HATE playing temp leagues, because i had to start everything all over again. i resented playing temp leagues but i stuck on. its like working a low entry position but your boss promised you he'll get you in a better spot after 5-6 years, the harder you work, the better the promotion. this not only translated to putting effort into the game but also using real life money. GGG never said that if we give more money the POE2 could be completed earlier. but that's a fact that doesnt need to be mentioned. i also found myself having a loose wallet dumping a huge lot of money into GGG, hoping it would hasten POE2 being released. but everyone knows now that poe2 is separate. all my hard work and effort. flushed down the drain. if i knew this was how it was going to be, i probably would have quit way back then.

if you were to ask, if you hated temp leagues then why play them at all? quite simple. as a standard player to get the most powerful stuff, i HAVE to jump into temp leagues. crucible weapons are no longer obtainable, certain tattoos are no longer obtainable. some legacy roll uniques are only available during their league release. i'm playing for the long run. not for the temp league. i usually outright skip leagues if i see nothing too interesting that can improve my standard wealth.

but i'll admit. i did enjoy settlers somewhat and its hugely due to the melee rework. the melee rework was the main reason why i tried settlers tho, settlers itself had nothing i wanted for. its slightly bittersweet because its the first time i played temp league just to test out melee but ended up enjoying it. a little too late.

i would also point out that i was hyperfixated with poe and ggg's success. poe was the BEST game of its kind. it was the first game that actually was classless. dungeon siege is the closest to being on equal footing but the biggest flaw with dungeon siege is it's not isometric and it severely lacks a skill tree or way to control the player's growth. i really had nothing else to compare POE to.

its like when the best thing you can get is a dry toast, you will love that dry toast. it took me sometime to actually realize there's other different ways to serve toast. slap on some margarine/butter/jam or whatever. there's so many other ways to eat toast. but i've became so accustomed to poe being the BEST THING EVER, that i convinced myself that if its not dry toast its not good.

no disrespect to everyone who loves poe tho. its just not for me.

i hope that can help you understand why i m being so attached on what poe could have been. i am too heavily invested in the game. both by effort and by actual monetary value. sunken cost fallacy perhaps? my real name is in POE credits. lol.

as for 40/40. i can tell you honestly. the best i've done is 36/40. the last 4 are usually carried, either paid for or not. previously i was a firm believer of "achievements are hollow if they are not done by yourself". but it all changed when i saw POE becoming a game that would abandon. what's losing a few divines when i dont even feel like touching my standard character.

as for your comment, the biggest fight is with myself. you are RIGHT! but just for the wrong reason.

you are right with your assessment on how every game has its flaws. to me i saw the flaws a long time ago but i just injected an unhealthy amount of hopium mixed with copium expecting things to change. every new patch it seemed to always change in the direction that i didn't like.

my biggest problem was i refused to let go. and that is a me thing. and that is how i fucked myself. i always expected the game to turn into something i wanted. but it took so long for me to realize that the game never catered to me to begin with. this game is not meant for me.

as for the next league. you're right theres a chance i might return. who knows. the likelihood is really low tbh. i dont really care for any melee or any other improvements now, nor do i care for new loot that can improve my std character.

poe will collect dust the same way i abandoned d1,d2,d3,tq. etc.

there is actually a way GGG can entice me back for a little while. which is by letting standard have access to temp league content. i promise you/ggg i will return to at least give the league a go if this happens in the 3.26.

else i'd play something else.

in fact i actually realized that LE is on the path of becoming another POE, and stopped playing LE.

just to share with you, i m now playing no rest for the wicked. ironically i didnt like it too much on release and it was POE2 that made me realize how much i actually loved deliberate melee combat. NRFTW does a lot of things right in my books. it is a game i enjoy a great deal more than poe now.

i guess i finally realized what type of games that i actually truly enjoy. i wanted POE to be that game very badly. unfortunately thats not the case and i no longer have hopium nor copium to keep me here.

all i do now is bitch and whine, and even then i've more or less shat out everything i wanted to say already.

the only thing left is going into forums once in a while. a little out of habit. but even then its the tiny traces of my attachment to the game. i still equate POE to gaming. when i m driving home for work i sometimes think "cant wait to get back home to play POE" even tho the game i m playing is anything else.

anyway. thank you for reading thru.

i am no longer disgruntled, no longer frustrated. i'm just randomly passing thru the forums like passing by an old arcade that i used to enjoy. looking with fond memories but realizing nothing inside has anything i want to play.