3.17 - Disappointed in the huge increase in grind, atlas + bossing bad design

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

i have 0 socketed because the favourite map system doesnt work if you use voidstones

What? I'm using two, and while I don't feel like I'm dropping as many favored maps as I should, I do see slightly more of them than other maps. Is your intel confirmed? Link?

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Phrazz wrote:

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

i have 0 socketed because the favourite map system doesnt work if you use voidstones

What? I'm using two, and while I don't feel like I'm dropping as many favored maps as I should, I do see slightly more of them than other maps. Is your intel confirmed? Link?

Its semi bugged. Works like that atm. If u open ur map with the 4 stones everytime it drops a map of tier 16 it will roll between all maps and apply the "odds" of ur favorite. I'm being testing and it seems the odds are either too low or its not working when u have the same map multiple times selected (tested with 1 canyon on favorite and rest burial chambers and after 50 or so maps I had almost the same drops of both maps)

But if u take out ur stones there will be NO t16 possible to drop on atlas so when one drops it will be the one ur atm or adjecent. So u will get many many more maps this way. Its no diferent than before using 3 stones in each region and 4 on the region u want to farm/drop maps.

I rly hope they change this as its a pain in the ass to take out/put in stones everytime u open a map. Btw if u open a map with 4 sextants/stones and after take out the stones it will apply the sextants to ur map and u will drop the maps u are running. Just be careful to not take out stones too early, make sure it consumed the sextants.

Just to clarify. Sextants are consumed and bonus applied on opening the map. Map drops are calculated in real time when u kill things so u can take out/put in stones inside the map and kill mobs it will take effect.

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Phrazz wrote:

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

i have 0 socketed because the favourite map system doesnt work if you use voidstones

What? I'm using two, and while I don't feel like I'm dropping as many favored maps as I should, I do see slightly more of them than other maps. Is your intel confirmed? Link?

It's rubbish. I have more favored maps by far than any other map and I only have two stones and like 9 favor slots unlocked.

Another "cry me a river" post. 😭

To give some more detailed information, I had 2 stones and 100+ atlas passives with 100 % increased tier of maps. The vast majority (i cant precise) of the maps that dropped were below tier 14, and t15 was rare and t16 very rare, it wasnt enough to sustain t14+.

Once I got to 3 stones with same atlas passives I got more t15-16s than I am able to run and the occasional lower tier here and there.

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Moridin79 wrote:

It's rubbish. I have more favored maps by far than any other map and I only have two stones and like 9 favor slots unlocked.

So you're saying other peoples experiences are "rubbish", based on your personal experience?

There is A LOT of people experiencing the favored map system as bugged. I wouldn't be so quick to call it "rubbish" just because it seem to work as intended for you. Anyhow, only reason I brought it up, is because Snorkle said "it IS bugged" and not "it SEEMS bugged", as if something has been confirmed by GGG.

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Phrazz wrote:

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Moridin79 wrote:

It's rubbish. I have more favored maps by far than any other map and I only have two stones and like 9 favor slots unlocked.

So you're saying other peoples experiences are "rubbish", based on your personal experience?

There is A LOT of people experiencing the favored map system as bugged. I wouldn't be so quick to call it "rubbish" just because it seem to work as intended for you. Anyhow, only reason I brought it up, is because Snorkle said "it IS bugged" and not "it SEEMS bugged", as if something has been confirmed by GGG.

His statement that favor doesn't work with voidstones socketed is rubbish.

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Phrazz wrote:

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Moridin79 wrote:

It's rubbish. I have more favored maps by far than any other map and I only have two stones and like 9 favor slots unlocked.

So you're saying other peoples experiences are "rubbish", based on your personal experience?

There is A LOT of people experiencing the favored map system as bugged. I wouldn't be so quick to call it "rubbish" just because it seem to work as intended for you. Anyhow, only reason I brought it up, is because Snorkle said "it IS bugged" and not "it SEEMS bugged", as if something has been confirmed by GGG.

Yeap. Very hard to know if its bugged or just rng. One thing is certain though even before this when he had 4 regions. By taking out stones u rly get more maps u want cause of what I said on the other post. I always did this since conquerors patch and sold lots and lots of maps. That's what I think snorke said, its by far more eficient to chain the same map if u take out the stones and that is a fact so if u think about it this makes the "favorite" system useless

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Phrazz wrote:

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Moridin79 wrote:

It's rubbish. I have more favored maps by far than any other map and I only have two stones and like 9 favor slots unlocked.

So you're saying other peoples experiences are "rubbish", based on your personal experience?

There is A LOT of people experiencing the favored map system as bugged. I wouldn't be so quick to call it "rubbish" just because it seem to work as intended for you. Anyhow, only reason I brought it up, is because Snorkle said "it IS bugged" and not "it SEEMS bugged", as if something has been confirmed by GGG.

theres tons of posts about it in the bug reports forum.


if i socket a few stoned and use all my favourites about 1 in 9 maps that drop in the tiers i have in my favourites are from my favourites. if i remove all the stones its almost 100% of my map drops are from favourites.


people are showing sample sizes of 25-50 t16 map drops with only 1 of those maps being the map that they have used all their favourite map slots on. thats roughly in line with what i get. when i take out all my stones out of 25 maps its probably about 24 of them being from the favourites.


i dunno the specifics, if its certain maps that are bugged but not others, but its almost certainly a thing a lot of people are experiencing.

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IHellBoundI wrote:

Yeap. Very hard to know if its bugged or just rng. One thing is certain though even before this when he had 4 regions. By taking out stones u rly get more maps u want cause of what I said on the other post. I always did this since conquerors patch and sold lots and lots of maps. That's what I think snorke said, its by far more eficient to chain the same map if u take out the stones and that is a fact so if u think about it this makes the "favorite" system useless

the kind of numbers im getting and other people reporting it and showing their map drops go way beyond just having a few less in the pool imo. were looking at setups where about 66% of the maps in the pool are the favourite map and theyre coming out at about 5% of actual map drops, to the point where theyre statistically invalid even in that % cause ur talking about 1 map that dropped.

then were comparing that to setups where 90% of the map pool is from that favourite and its dropping 95%+ of maps as that favourite map, which considering i have shaping the seas with 25% increased change for favourite maps is entirely what you would expect. that is working exactly as ud expect it to right away from the first map you run when u drop 2 of that map with 0 of the others and then 20 map runs later you still havent found a single map in a tier that wasnt on your favourites.

vs finding 1 map from ur favourites that can essentially just be written off as chance on a 66% + 25% more likely supposed drop chance.


its beyond being written off as rng imo.