Stress-Free PoE! RIGHTEOUS GOLEMS (RF): No Required Items! 1-Button Play! SSF League Start-End! 3.13

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LapinMalint wrote:

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Interested to know as well!

I was a bit underwhelmed by the 400k DPS in PoB. How much better does it get with reasonable gear? (not mirror-level)

And how well does it scale with investment? Would more golems (with Anima stone/Primordial jewels) be the way to go?
Would that synergize will with an explode-chest? Do you need to take the Shaper of Flames node to ignire, then?

Thanks!

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Lemabelle wrote:

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...RF builds traditionally have lackluster single-target DPS at the high end of things. RF just doesn't scale with gear as much as most meta builds. However, it has the advantage of being able to attack, at all times, while moving and dodging stuff, with only a very minimal mental focus needed on 'stay in range to deal damage'. While DPS is lower, you tend to spend more time actually dealing damage, which makes up for it somewhat. The survivability advantage of being able to just focus on movement is huge. High life and high life regen make it a tanky build and because you don't benefit from a lot of offensive gear mods, you can focus more defense, making an even tankier build. It's a mixed blessing, since there is a much more modest damage ceiling with gear investment than most meta builds.

If you're wanting to acquire 100EX of gear and use it to faceroll all content, RF probably isn't a good choice. If you're wanting a relaxed style of a play that can blow through most content without much concern while you watch some netflix on the side or something... RF is that. I usually build at least 2 characters in every league I play. One is always a relaxed cyclone/RF/autobomber type build. The other is whatever I feel like I'm missing with that relaxed build.

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Lemabelle wrote:

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I really enjoyed playing a RF builds a long time ago and have been hoping to do RF again. I haven't played in a few leagues, but will be coming back for this one. Playing RF on a witch, with golems!? Count me in! I'm hyped.

RF builds traditionally have lackluster single-target DPS at the high end of things. RF just doesn't scale with gear as much as most meta builds. However, it has the advantage of being able to attack, at all times, while moving and dodging stuff, with only a very minimal mental focus needed on 'stay in range to deal damage'. While DPS is lower, you tend to spend more time actually dealing damage, which makes up for it somewhat. The survivability advantage of being able to just focus on movement is huge. High life and high life regen make it a tanky build and because you don't benefit from a lot of offensive gear mods, you can focus more defense, making an even tankier build. It's a mixed blessing, since there is a much more modest damage ceiling with gear investment than most meta builds.

If you're wanting to acquire 100EX of gear and use it to faceroll all content, RF probably isn't a good choice. If you're wanting a relaxed style of a play that can blow through most content without much concern while you watch some netflix on the side or something... RF is that. I usually build at least 2 characters in every league I play. One is always a relaxed cyclone/RF/autobomber type build. The other is whatever I feel like I'm missing with that relaxed build.

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Torvos wrote:

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Don't traditional RF builds use scorching ray? Wouldn't it be a DPS improvement on this build to use SR instead of Cyclone, with hextouch + flammability on it?

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Rex_Urhole wrote:

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If you're talking about SR while leveling, I've found DPS isn't a concern during that phase using PF.

For full-build it could certainly work (previous RF builds from Wrecker had Incinerate). For boss fights it will help DPS.

However I've found with incinerate/SR you lose the mobility (even without cyclone) that aids in the survivability of the build and general clear speed - especially against mobs & maps where you probably don't want to stand still for very long, even if stuff is being killed as it comes into the RF AoE.

That's what I've enjoyed with these builds - they have flexibility to support personal preferences and tweaks without sacrificing overall effectiveness.

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kEvS wrote:

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I'll league start this on SSF SC :-)

Thanks for the guide update. Hope Elementalist is huge.

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Haattila wrote:

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Returning player that mostly played RF

I'm a bit curious how is this supposed to performed compare to a marauder's ascendency RF build ?

Like sure you have a lot's of damage amp but 4kHP on a RF build when HPs are your base damage.

Also can you sustain righteous fire while the earth golem is down ?

I'm like really intrigued by that build yet i'm affraid that this is just too hard to play

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Thurasiz wrote:

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With my current PoB for this, with really bad gear, losing the stone golem makes you lose 64 life/s from having 5,2k. That's for 4 seconds before the golem comes back, makes 256 life lost. Plus, if you think that's a problem, you have 3 kinds of golems but can summon 4, so just double up on the stone golem, one dies, you have the buff from your second.

Numbers change a bit, since i plan on using Saffels for the extra max res.

Should not be much of a Problem.

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KorbeanDallas wrote:

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Hey guys, any idea on which on anointment to go? thanks again cant wait to try this build tomorrow!

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MaxFox1823 wrote:

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can we chang Bastion of Elements to Heart of Destruction 60% aoe is better for me than some def in softcore league + is this biuld fast iam reading some thing like watch a movie while playing dose that mean i will take a lot of time to clear map or thay mean i will not have to focus to much

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MaxFox1823 wrote:

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cyclone as a momevt skill isnt that bad thing for clear speed as cyclone slow you

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Ormoslormos wrote:

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Ormoslormos wrote:

I am happy for the explanation, but still confused as hell =D
I've been re-reading the updated elementalist nodes and can't find anything that mentions 1 golem being counted as "double". I feel so silly.

Will use this build as my league start in HC anyway :)

It doesn't count as double. The buffs are amplified per golem, not per unique golem. You can summon 2 stone golem, and the 1 buff is increased for 2 golems. It in this case, 4 total golems, but only 3 unique buffs. The 3 buffs are still amplified using the golem count of 4.

Oh snap I am so stupid =D Why the hell would you need 2 gems for summoning 2 stone golems. Thanks all. That was the level of my brainfartiness here.