Content Update 3.13.0 -- Path of Exile: Echoes of the Atlas

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hwat wrote:

I enjoy minion builds and play it every league.

And every. League. You. Nerf. Them.

Seriously, why instead of adding new interesting options (new spectres for example) you just kill any interest to continue? Minus fucking 4 levels? Are you kidding me or what?

I just hope you will listen to negative feedback. I don't remember such dissapointing patch notes.

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Infinal wrote:

Summary of the Spectremancer nerfs:

•20% decreased damage from Ascendancy nerfs (assuming four allocated lesser Ascendancy points, as should be the case for all real builds).
On an average 420% -> 400% increased minion damage Necromancer this comes out to a simple multiplier of 500/520 = 96.15%.
•Spectres are 4 levels lower (76 -> 72) at maximum gem level. Assuming the gem level progression remains the same past 20 (1 additional level per gem level), that equals a DPS multiplier of a whopping 82.42%.
•Assuming Syndicate Operatives, which I ran in Heist, they can no longer Spell Echo Support their knives, so we'll take the next best thing in terms of DPS (Predator or Awakened Elemental Focus, about the same for my build): 1.75/(0.9*2*1.7) = 57.19%.

Summary of the Spectremancer buffs:

https://web.poecdn.com/necromancerbuffs.png

We combine the nerfs with the buffs for an effective before-after multiplier of... *drumroll* 45.32% of pre-Ritual DPS. A little less than half of what it was.
Good job, George.

Seriously stfu with necromancer and minions. It's an OP and BROKEN playstyle.
The investment and effort required, for its reward and effectiveness, is absolutely insane.

Minions and Necromancer is still OP. Shut, up.

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Infinal wrote:

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hwat wrote:

I enjoy minion builds and play it every league.

And every. League. You. Nerf. Them.

Seriously, why instead of adding new interesting options (new spectres for example) you just kill any interest to continue? Minus fucking 4 levels? Are you kidding me or what?

I just hope you will listen to negative feedback. I don't remember such dissapointing patch notes.

Obviously because GGG shares this mentality:

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Infinal wrote:

Summary of the Spectremancer nerfs:

•20% decreased damage from Ascendancy nerfs (assuming four allocated lesser Ascendancy points, as should be the case for all real builds).
On an average 420% -> 400% increased minion damage Necromancer this comes out to a simple multiplier of 500/520 = 96.15%.
•Spectres are 4 levels lower (76 -> 72) at maximum gem level. Assuming the gem level progression remains the same past 20 (1 additional level per gem level), that equals a DPS multiplier of a whopping 82.42%.
•Assuming Syndicate Operatives, which I ran in Heist, they can no longer Spell Echo Support their knives, so we'll take the next best thing in terms of DPS (Predator or Awakened Elemental Focus, about the same for my build): 1.75/(0.9*2*1.7) = 57.19%.

Summary of the Spectremancer buffs:

https://web.poecdn.com/necromancerbuffs.png

We combine the nerfs with the buffs for an effective before-after multiplier of... *drumroll* 45.32% of pre-Ritual DPS. A little less than half of what it was.
Good job, George.

Seriously stfu with necromancer and minions. It's an OP and BROKEN playstyle.
The investment and effort required, for its reward and effectiveness, is absolutely insane.

Minions and Necromancer is still OP. Shut, up.