[3.12] Self-Curse EK Temporal Chains Occultist Mini Guide (Warning not budget friendly)




3.12 Heist Update
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Judging from the patch notes the build survives. It's going to be much more costly this league getting it to delirium 5 level. We lose assassin's mark which is roughly 30-40% ish DPS. Right now I'm thinking the new setup will be full cold conversion running despair, frostbite, elemental weakness, and temporal chains as a 4 curse setup. Will update after a week or two when I get the build up and running.



Self curse I thought it was dead?
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- Still works with either occultist ascendancy or Cospri's will. You require curses can apply through hexproof specifically. Whether this is intentional or not we will see come next major patch.

I did not discover this concept or build just tweaked the foundation of it.


Pro/Con
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Pros:
Fastest mapper in the game
Thrives off harder maps
Can solo 5 way legion and delirium 5

Cons:
Budget
Lag
No beyond this league
Requires a bossing character (cant kill sirus, shaper, elder, elder guardian maps)





Gameplay Video
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T16 Sextants Alc - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szJa74WSMzo
T16 5 Delirium Beyond Sextant - https://youtu.be/szJa74WSMzo?t=93
T16 Minotaur Alc Average Map - https://youtu.be/szJa74WSMzo?t=213
Solo 5 Way Legion - https://youtu.be/szJa74WSMzo?t=341

T19 5 Delirium Everything Map - https://youtu.be/IHwrU_S3bdA



Gear/POB
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POB : https://pastebin.com/CijyiHer




Note : Jewels are not shown here and are mandatory for the build. You can view on my profile or check out the path of building pastebin.


Gearing Options / Budget

Bow : The best non synthesis base would be an ilvl 73 recurve bow which is like a 3-4% dps loss vs this one crafted the same way.

Glove's : Ideally despair/enfeeble + elemental weakness is a better option here. Frees up one of your ring slots which you can dedicate completely towards getting res capped. Or if you get enfeeble you can go ham corrupting annointed solstice until +1 curse and run 4 curse.

Cluster Jewel : You will notice some of my cluster jewels are legacy and do not have a jewel socket. You do not need legacy jewels for this to work and it can still be done only using 3 on an occultist. Just look for 25% increase effect, 6 passives, whispers of death or dark discourse, and ideally resistances.

Note: If you run dark discourse make sure you have a corrupted jewel with cannot be hindered.

Other gear : Corrupts are not required and explosion chest helps greatly. Can use a vaal regalia instead of astral just watch your resistances.




Bow Crafting
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Step 1 : Get a base, ideally a ilvl 73 recurve bow or a nice synthesis bow that compares.

Step 2 : Buy a dozen or more deafening essence of woe's and spam the bow until you hit t1/t2/t3 global crit multi.

Step 3 : Remove other prefix/suffix from the bow using annulment orbs or preferably seed crafting. You would also prefer to keep 1 random suffix with global crit multi. If for whatever reason you end up with just global crit multi and spell damage you can seed craft life. This will give you life gained on hit, physical damage leeched as life, or life gained after kill. Having physical damage leeched as life and 1 of the 2 life suffix's is fine. If you annul spell damage or multi go back to step 2.

Step 4 : Craft cannot roll attack mods on the bow. At this point it should have spell damage/global crit multi/ 1 or 2 prefix/suffix that can be removed by seed craft/ cannot roll attack mods. Exalted orb the bow and it will now have +1 all gems.

Step 5 : Start by removing cannot roll attacks mod and then seed crafting off the random suffix/prefix's left over. So now your bow should just have +1 all gems/spell damage/global crit multi. Multi mod and its done.




Ethereal Knives Vs Blade Vortex Vs Wander
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Blade vortex does not scale with max projectile buffs and the requirement of getting close does not entice me. The benefit is on the other hand that once your BV is max stacks you pretty much do not have to cast again.

Ethereal knives has the power of being a strong physical spell as well as being a projectile. It clears about as far as wander but has a much higher base damage.

Wander is probably stronger then both once it gets going but I think it has a much higher chance to die early on in a hard map like delirium 5 vs EK solo. The other drawback is the high price of Pdps wands vs crafting the spell bow.




FAQS
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-Q: Best way to craft the curse cluster jewels.
A: Buy an ilvl 84 6 passive curse cluster and chaos spam. Look for dark discourse, whispers of death, 25-35% increased effect of small nodes, resistances. Don't forget if you end with a 3 prop you may be able to seed craft a resistance you need.

-Q: Curse effect needed to be capped.
A: You need 135% in-game tooltip curse effect modifier(under misc). After that you add 30% from the helm enchant and 10% from curse on hit which puts you at 175%. This is the temporal chains buff cap with solstice on.

-Q: Why can't I kill mobs in 5 delirium.
A: Most likely your global crit multi is low. 50% from precision watcher's eye, 20% from helm, 52% from 2 cobalt jewels.

-Q: Why despair as the 3rd curse.
A: Enfeeble as a double corrupt on shackles would be the most ideal. That would open a ring slot for ventor's. Other then that it adds the most damage and projectile weakness is not practical to get.

-Q: Best bosser to make as a second character.
A: Ball lightning miner is the cheapest however if you dislike mines spectre's is another cheap alternative. Unlimited budget CoC and golems are nice builds.

-Q: Best delirum map setup.
A: Burial chambers with 5 obscured, map cannot consume sextants, area is influenced by elder (but not elder guardian), 35 quality, and beyond as a fractured mod.



Have any questions/thoughts/improvements leave a post here or msg me in game.

IGN : @Rusters
Discord : rusty#7560 (best way to contact me)

Last edited by Rustyy121 on Sep 17, 2020, 8:27:26 AM
Last bumped on Sep 5, 2020, 3:03:45 PM
Hello Rustyy121

Thank you for creating the post. I watched your Youtube video and I was looking exactly for something like this.

I have a very similar setup (not very optimized yet) but using Blade Vortex. Like you said on the post, is quite hard to go in their face and kill stuff on a delibrium 5. I mean I couldn't even kill stuff to get my HH started.

I took this build from a few previous league but it doesn't seem like is working out for me and I am planning to swap over to your build with Ethereal Knives.

However, I have spent almost all my currency already in this build and got a small amount left. Can you please look at my setup and tell me if I need to get a new 'bow', 'helmet', 'armor', and 'rings'? Any details would be greatly appreciated.

I will be switching over to your tree, but here is my setup so far:

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Prolegend wrote:
Hello Rustyy121

Thank you for creating the post. I watched your Youtube video and I was looking exactly for something like this.

I have a very similar setup (not very optimized yet) but using Blade Vortex. Like you said on the post, is quite hard to go in their face and kill stuff on a delibrium 5. I mean I couldn't even kill stuff to get my HH started.

I took this build from a few previous league but it doesn't seem like is working out for me and I am planning to swap over to your build with Ethereal Knives.


Thanks for the post, we talked in game some.


Updated the guide with bow crafting section and T19 everything map under videos.
It is actually quite funny . But I also posted a similar Build guide to this without knowing this one existed. Mine has a similar idea but it utilizes zerphi's heart and inspired learning for a more budget friendly setup. You also go much faster with soul eater.
Thanks to OP for helping me in game and providing me very helpful details.
I have been able to craft all the pieces.

Went from this:
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Prolegend wrote:
Hello Rustyy121

Thank you for creating the post. I watched your Youtube video and I was looking exactly for something like this.

I have a very similar setup (not very optimized yet) but using Blade Vortex. Like you said on the post, is quite hard to go in their face and kill stuff on a delibrium 5. I mean I couldn't even kill stuff to get my HH started.

I took this build from a few previous league but it doesn't seem like is working out for me and I am planning to swap over to your build with Ethereal Knives.

However, I have spent almost all my currency already in this build and got a small amount left. Can you please look at my setup and tell me if I need to get a new 'bow', 'helmet', 'armor', and 'rings'? Any details would be greatly appreciated.

I will be switching over to your tree, but here is my setup so far:





To this (rares self crafted):
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First of all thanks for your guide :)

Could you elaborate a bit more about stacking so much curse effectiveness? Isn't it capped anyway?

Why are you pushing for so much resistances? Are you trying to be ele weakness capped?

Thanks in advance
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Prolegend wrote:
Thanks to OP for helping me in game and providing me very helpful details.
I have been able to craft all the pieces.

Went from this:
Spoiler

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Prolegend wrote:
Hello Rustyy121

Thank you for creating the post. I watched your Youtube video and I was looking exactly for something like this.

I have a very similar setup (not very optimized yet) but using Blade Vortex. Like you said on the post, is quite hard to go in their face and kill stuff on a delibrium 5. I mean I couldn't even kill stuff to get my HH started.

I took this build from a few previous league but it doesn't seem like is working out for me and I am planning to swap over to your build with Ethereal Knives.

However, I have spent almost all my currency already in this build and got a small amount left. Can you please look at my setup and tell me if I need to get a new 'bow', 'helmet', 'armor', and 'rings'? Any details would be greatly appreciated.

I will be switching over to your tree, but here is my setup so far:





To this (rares self crafted):
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wow you made great improvements! id love to know how to craft the pieces myself. maybe Rustyy could add more crafting tips besides the bow? would love it!
Last edited by bahnschranke on Jul 21, 2020, 11:23:44 AM
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Lezzar wrote:
First of all thanks for your guide :)

Could you elaborate a bit more about stacking so much curse effectiveness? Isn't it capped anyway?

Why are you pushing for so much resistances? Are you trying to be ele weakness capped?

Thanks in advance

I am not the guide , but basically how the temp chains cap works is that the expiry rate for buffs "debuff" is capped at 75%. Or 175% with solstice and 275% without solstice. Howevver for I think most if not all the other curses are not capped in anyway. So stacking more curse effectiveness is often just a really easy way to gain more damage (eg , assasin's mark will give you more dmg when you get more curse effectiveness) or more defense (eg if using enfeeble).
thank for the build , can i ask why your EK mana cost is 0 ??

i have problem with my mana cost T_T
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altdiablo wrote:
thank for the build , can i ask why your EK mana cost is 0 ??

i have problem with my mana cost T_T


I probably shouldn't be answering for him, but he has Vaal Clarity, also if your having Mana issues grab Mind Drinker Notable.

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