Witch - [3.21] ShakCentral's Cold DoT Elementalist For Everyone - Forum

" BundesHeinz wrote: I have played this build ages ago and have returned to it this league becaue it's awesome AF. But 2 years past a few changes have come and some of them confuse me a bit. Maybe someone can clear things up for me: 1. I see people either use two curses with Frostbite/TC or one curse with Frostbite/Flesh and Stone. No one seems to be getting a dual curse setup for Frostbite/Flesh and Stone AND Witchfire Brew. Why is this? I feel like it should be quite the upgrade and is generally a good flask. 2. LL seems to be all the rage these days. When I played Vortex in Synthesis (check my profile, charname is ODERINT_DVM_METVANT) I used Atziri's Reflection and Coward's Legacy with CI. This felt really good, dealing a lot more dmg than CI but gaining all of it's survivability. How come no one does this these days? 3. How Important do you guys feel that Vile Bastion is with a LL setup? I was thinking of dropping it to get Explodes and Dual curse (+Malediction) from my Ascendancy (so I don't need Whispers of Doom) and go Witchfire/Frostbite. Will this lack survivabiliy? 1. Witchfire Brew actually lowers our DPS because of the Despair overwriting other curses and don't be confused by %increased Damage Over Time. This stat is additive and doesn't scale at all. Bottled Faith is best DPS flask period. 2. With the changes to Vile Bastion LL ends up being just as defensive now with triple the DMG and can reach 10k ES. CI isn't as tanky as people think. It only allows you to have more Rares with higher ES and no chaos damage taken. 3. I am a big believer in Vile Bastion for LL after this league. Forgot the Witchfire Brew idea. Despair kills the DPS as explained in my point number 1.	Posted by donbrawler on Jan 22, 2021, 4:47:26 PM Quote this Post
" stnikolauswagne wrote: 3: Vile Bastion is not really worth it IMO as long as you have stun immunity from somewhere, the easiest source on LL is getting Chayulas Presence Amulet. As for your setup it would probably work, but Survivability will lack a bit, DPS over, say, 5Mil is kinda wasted because every boss phases in a single vortex cast, at that point I'd rather have defenses for the intermissions. Sorry man but your 100% wrong about Vile Bastion not being worth it. Stun Immunity is not what makes it the most important Ascendancy point now. Its the reworked ES regen you get after this patch you gain 10% regen and its a insane Defensive bonus now. Chayulas is the past!! I will never use it again Say hello to multiple opportunities on Rare Amulets :) Last edited by donbrawler on Jan 22, 2021, 5:09:56 PM	Posted by donbrawler on Jan 22, 2021, 4:54:46 PM Quote this Post
" rupture55 wrote: How does the LL version of this build perform defensively in t15/16 maps? Does it struggle to maintain ES without any ES on block mechanic? LL is a lot more defensive this league. You just need ES on Kill from Brushed with Death Cluster and Vile Bastion and you can go to to town juicing maps :) Last edited by donbrawler on Jan 22, 2021, 4:58:46 PM	Posted by donbrawler on Jan 22, 2021, 4:57:46 PM Quote this Post
" Ma23ck wrote: I got lucky and was able to fracture this wandd... and then with 3 frigid fossil, got the + 1 to cold gems. Now how is the best way to go to craft a gg "i won the league" wand? Remove the fire mod Prefixes cannot be changed. Scour Multimod Then add cold dot and trigger a socketed gem?? Yep, looks good :)	Posted by donbrawler on Jan 22, 2021, 5:04:36 PM Quote this Post
I love the chaos explosions, especially with the reduced chaos resistance from the ascendancy. Is there a down side to having vortex on the lift mouse button? Any suggestions to increase movement speed when Elusive is not on?	Posted by haze0 on Jan 22, 2021, 5:12:26 PM Quote this Post
" haze0 wrote: I love the chaos explosions, especially with the reduced chaos resistance from the ascendancy. Is there a down side to having vortex on the lift mouse button? Any suggestions to increase movement speed when Elusive is not on? I have been using "Freedom of Movement" anoint on my amulet to zoom through maps while farming harvest. Its grown on me and is really nice for mapping. You loose a lot dps compared to Tranquility anoint so don't swap anoints if you have Tranquility already. I am thinking about using two amulet setups this league for end game. One for fast mapping and one for bossing. Last edited by donbrawler on Jan 22, 2021, 5:29:47 PM	Posted by donbrawler on Jan 22, 2021, 5:28:58 PM Quote this Post
I've already got a zoomy 95 Pathfinder farming T16 content, but I'm looking for a tanky/mistake-forgiving bosser. Is this it? If so, what kinda budget do I need to prepare to reliably take down all the endgame boss content? I'm not necessarily trying to race kills with DPS, just wanna be safe and steady. Appreciate any feedback!	Posted by peterdink on Jan 22, 2021, 5:53:52 PM Quote this Post
Pantheons Some have ask me about my choice of Pantheons in pm. Make sure you are upgrading your pantheons too. They have nice defensive bonuses 1. Soul of Lunaris, Projectiles are the only real downside of Occultist and 10% chance to avoid them and 100% avoid projectiles that chain are huge plus and you get movement speed :) 2. Soul of Abberath, You can't beat Unaffected by Burning Ground and reduce ignite duration. Last edited by donbrawler on Jan 22, 2021, 6:08:21 PM	Posted by donbrawler on Jan 22, 2021, 5:59:02 PM Quote this Post
" peterdink wrote: I've already got a zoomy 95 Pathfinder farming T16 content, but I'm looking for a tanky/mistake-forgiving bosser. Is this it? If so, what kinda budget do I need to prepare to reliably take down all the endgame boss content? I'm not necessarily trying to race kills with DPS, just wanna be safe and steady. Appreciate any feedback! Since there is a lot of newer people coming to this thread and I have been playing vortex for a year. The word TANKY keeps getting asked. TANKY EXPLAINED 1. Vortex is a great boss killer and can feel very Tanky with ES sustain. 2. When some of us say tanky we mean, High ES pool, good ES sustain and easy to stay out of range of boss mechanics while still doing dmg with vortex dot. 3. This build can be one shot by every end game boss mechanic and is not forgiving for players who don't dodge or don't know boss fights. This isn't a Jugg who can take massive hits. Last edited by donbrawler on Jan 22, 2021, 6:07:29 PM	Posted by donbrawler on Jan 22, 2021, 6:06:26 PM Quote this Post
" donbrawler wrote: " peterdink wrote: I've already got a zoomy 95 Pathfinder farming T16 content, but I'm looking for a tanky/mistake-forgiving bosser. Is this it? If so, what kinda budget do I need to prepare to reliably take down all the endgame boss content? I'm not necessarily trying to race kills with DPS, just wanna be safe and steady. Appreciate any feedback! Since , There is a lot of newer people coming to this thread and I have been playing vortex for a year. The word TANKY keeps getting asked. TANKY EXPLAINED 1. Vortex is a great boss killer and can feel very Tanky with ES sustain. 2. When some of us say tanky we mean, High ES pool, good ES sustain and easy to stay out of range of boss mechanics while still doing dmg with vortex dot. 3. This build can be one shot by every end game boss mechanic and is not forgiving for players who don't dodge or don't know boss fights. This isn't a Jugg who can take massive hits. Greatly appreciate the feedback! For whatever is considered a high ES pool (10k I guess?) and good ES sustain, could you estimate/ballpark a currency amount to build around level 90? Running around on my 4.9k pathfinder who relies on flask spam doesn't feel as steady as I'd like. :)	Posted by peterdink on Jan 22, 2021, 6:08:08 PM Quote this Post