Trade Etiquette: Seller or buyer sends trade request first?

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idrankyourbeer wrote:

if im in my hideout and someone wants a cheap item i have no problem sending them an invite and selling.

if im in the middle of something and someone wants some super cheap item that i feel isnt worth my time going back to the hideout over, i wont even reply until im done what im doing. especially if im in a delve or bossing or soemething which i could possibly die in the middle of. ill wait until im done and ready, and ill ask if the person still wants it. if they dont want it whether they found someone else to sell them their map for 1 chisel, or just felt insulted after having to wait a couple minutes for their cheap little item, i couldnt give a shit less.

multiple whispers for some petty item while im in the middle of something won't get them an invite either, though it will get people ignored almost as fast as it would if they whisper me for an item and then send me a party invite. yeah, i get it, youre like super impatient and u need that cheap little item you seen like right now, and having a bit of currency in your fairy tale world makes you special and everybody should just drop what theyre doing and roll out the red carpet for you. thats a cool story and all bro but im afraid now youre going to have to find your item elsewhere

if they dont like it, i dont care. theyre not entitled to anything, and i play the game on my time, not anybody elses. when someone impatiently tries to come at me for a cheap little item and then try to tell me to jump, i am not going to ask them how high?

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insilopeh wrote:

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DivineChampion wrote:

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insilopeh wrote:

I usually spam 5-10 people at the same time after the first one failed me.

So you are wasting time of 5-10 people because someone wasted your time? GJ, people like you are making trading cancerous.

I usually have to spam 5-10 additional people, and then another 5-10. If more than 1 suddenly shows up, i'll buy it from everyone, seeing how I only spam multiple people for cheap things. What makes trade cancerous is people who do not respond. I am not wasting anyone's time, unless this person answers 5-10minutes after i wrote to him in which case, I don't really care. Sellers shouldnt expect people to wait for 10 minutes.

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KittiesGoMew wrote:

Seller or buyer sends trade request first? https://strawpoll.com/rwf2hp1s

Ever since I've been trading in PoE, if I'm the buyer I always wait till the seller sends a trade request first. And of course if I'm the seller I much prefer to send first. Lately it's been really irritating me when I just get out of a map after inviting someone, only to have them send me a request to trade the moment I get into my HO. It's like, give me a minute to dump my stuff and such! To me it just feels so pushy. Even more so if I decline because I'm not quite ready and they send one again.

Anyways, what's people's preferences on this and thoughts?

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Boem wrote:

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Foogalicious wrote:

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Boem wrote:

There are perfectly normal reasons why somebody could be in a rush that don't amount to "piss of the seller".

Sure. But not a single one of those reasons warrants actually, you know, pissing off the seller. *

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Why an etiquette would be required for trading in a game is beyond me.

Maybe for the same reason common courtesy is a good idea in any other context. (like here, for example. Where I edited my post to delete the closing line "...you paste-eating dipshit" because it lacked propriety, doncha know)





*with the exception of "a poe-crazed gunman is holding a pistol to my head and will blow my brains out if I do not make the following trade in under 5 seconds."

Your lack of creativity is of no concern to me or this community, honestly.

Common courtesy isn't a good idea in any context, it's apropriate depending on context and not an absolute requirement, which make it usable.

There is a practical reason why the word courtesy is pre-empted with common and it's precisely for this reason....

It's fairly hard to strenghten the point when it's embedded in the concept itself, really.

From a paste-eating hard skinned dipshit with love.

Peace,

-Boem-

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Boem wrote:

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Foogalicious wrote:

You seem to be stuck on the idea of etiquette being "required" rather than just "something we should all engage in as a matter of course to make life easier, more pleasant, and civilized". I could point out that the whole "required" condition was your conceit in the first place, but allow me to instead rephrase my take on etiquette without suggesting it is "required" in any way: if you don't think courtesy has a place in an in-game trade setting... you might just be kind of an asshole.

Oh i thought we were discussing the OP, who is trying to deduce a "correct" etiquette which obviously imply's people not following it to be behaving incorrectly.

My stance was exactly your point.

etiquette is not required, it happens within every trade individually and if it does not, people respond apropriatly given the context.

You know social etiquete, like saying "hello sir", "thank you for trade", "give me a minute sir".....

And i am an asshole, to people who deserve it, like that a** who responds with "hurry it up you flaming turd" when i tell them they have to wait a minute.

Gladly though, the times i have to behave like an asshole are far and distant between massive amounts of trades.

Peace,

-Boem-