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Reminds of what my dad told me: Never share your problems with anyone. Half don't care and half take joy that you have problems.
This explains so much about you. 100% not sarcastic. I'm sorry.
Oh don't be I love my dad so much taught me how to be man and solve problems instead of how to whine like so many do.
Actually, your dad has a point.
It's certainly rare to be able to judiciously share problems with a trusted other (or team of others) and work on them in a solution-focused manner. Even then, there's gonna be some venting because man, people and systems can be so crazy wrong, hurtful, outrageous, entertainingly fucked and infuriating, and ourselves a red hot mess of emotions and reactions, eh?
Definitely I can see the appeal of being a Lone Wolf type.
ah, I'd more likely become a weeb, dammnit.
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Reminds of what my dad told me: Never share your problems with anyone. Half don't care and half take joy that you have problems.
This explains so much about you. 100% not sarcastic. I'm sorry.
Oh don't be I love my dad so much taught me how to be man and solve problems instead of how to whine like so many do.
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Question given by journalist to Peterson: "What is most important to you in in your life?"
Petersons answer in this video.
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Just remember, erd: the difference between lone wolf and lonely wolf is one is the romantic fiction, the other is the sad reality.
Weebs are never alone. We just have a very flexible idea of "together". :)
"whosoever is delighted in solitude, is either a wild beast or a god"
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Posted bygrepmanon Nov 7, 2018, 6:16:19 AM
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Weebs are never alone. We just have a very flexible idea of "together". :)
Ha! There's a Japanese word for that very thing?
Oh dear, wolves, yes, Charan you've forayed into a pet topic of mine long before three wolf moon shirts were a source of true power.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lone_wolf_(trait)
Just remember, erd: the difference between lone wolf and lonely wolf is one is the romantic fiction, the other is the sad reality.
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wolves that have left or been excluded from their pack are described as lone wolves.
Neither of those seems like much of a positive choice.
And then this gem:
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In the animal kingdom, lone wolves are typically older female wolves driven from the pack
Oh, and this:
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Very few wolves will simply remain lone wolves; as such, these lone wolves may be stronger, more aggressive and far more dangerous than the average wolf that is a member of a pack. However, lone wolves have difficulty hunting, as wolves' favorite prey, large ungulates, are troublesome for a single wolf to bring down alone. Instead, lone wolves will generally hunt smaller animals and scavenge carrion.
So much for the idea of the 'lone wolf alpha male', lololololol.
It's funny how the single wolf is seen as such a great hunter in many people's minds, as that domain belongs to the great cats with their stealth, power, claws and teeth, and of those the leopard would be my pick for the most formidable "lone wolf".
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Leopards are astoundingly strong. They are pound for pound the strongest of the big cats. They are able to climb trees, even when carrying heavy prey, and often choose to rest on tree branches during the day. One reason why leopards sometimes take their prey up in the trees is to ensure lions or hyenas can’t steal them.
Leopards are renowned for their agility. They run up to 58km/h and can leap 6m horizontally and 3m vertically. They are also very strong swimmers.
The leopard is the most elusive and secretive of the large felids. They are extremely difficult to trace and locate in the wild.
The wolf's strength is in the pack. On that and alpha wolves:
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Although the alpha male is usually in the thick of the hunt, it would be an exaggeration to say that he is leading it. The alpha may select the animal to be pursued, or he may chose to break off the hunt if it is going poorly. But he is not barking out orders to his subordinates like a general on the battlefield. The wolves just seem to know what to do, and they do it as one.
The young wolves watch the behavior of the adults and see how the game is played. They witness how the adults change their strategy according to conditions and type of prey. They learn how the hunters handle each different situation: what to do when the prey dashes for open ground, or jumps into a river, or turns to defend itself.
When juvenile wolves finally join in the hunt, they imitate the more experienced wolves and perfect the precise skills of herding and tackling. By the time they are full grown adults, they have become part of a well-oiled machine. Even if they were able to communicate verbally with each other during the hunt, it would be unnecessary. They know exactly what to expect from the others and what is expected of them.
https://www.livingwithwolves.org/how-wolves-hunt/
attenborough narrates a clip of wolves hunting hares -
Wolves being pack animals is why I said lone wolf "type". Never pictured the animals which have always brought to mind for me the idea of family, from Jungle Book on come to think of it -
and it's good to read your findings there. I didn't know lone wolves were usually old females. lololol indeed.
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When speaking of the human lone wolf, things are a little less...frightening:
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As a person, a lone wolf is an individual who prefers solitude, expresses introversion, or works alone.
That doesn't sound particularly alpha. If anything, that's me.
yes, and there's a sense of irony in it for me too, because while humans choose to loner it and remain that way, wolves never do. Even then, how many humans would make that common enough choice given the right pack to live with?
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Posted byerdelyiion Nov 7, 2018, 9:03:44 AM
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I was reading today about Chinese turning out men while we turn out guys who don't know what they are.
Why China no longer needs the wisdom of ‘Old White Guys’
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2171548/why-china-no-longer-relies-wisdom-old-white-guys
“Inside China’s training camps, where boys are learning how to be men”
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2171040/inside-chinas-training-camps-where-boys-are-learning-how-be-men
USA is fucked IMO because it's just a turning phase too easy too long
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I'd caption the first picture as "co-operation in service to a larger cause".
People pull together against hardship and a common enemy, that is often true, and people in many cities and urban areas are terribly soft through overdomestication.
Given my way, I'd dump many a person out in Arnhem Land and let 'em walk - it'd sort out a lot.
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However, historically, the inhibition of emotionality is by no means a constant or immutable male trait. During the Georgian period (1714–1830), for example, advances in scientific and anatomical knowledge from the practice of dissection suggested that the central nervous system was fundamental to understandings of the body. There was widespread discussion about how it worked, and physicians thought that many diseases and afflictions were connected in some way to it. This resulted in a new interest in nervous disorders, which were thought to affect men and women alike. Among Georgian society, the individuals thought to be most seriously affected by ‘nervous distempers’ were those from the cultured, well-to-do classes, who were considered to have a more refined nervous system, which was more prone to collapse. Nervousness among the higher social strata was commonly accepted and seen as a sign of ‘good breeding’.
The display of emotion among men in this period was not associated with sexual practice or effeminacy. Being ‘manly’ meant different things in Georgian Britain; primarily being virtuous and wise. Male emotionality therefore crossed no inappropriate boundaries nor brought undue negative attention. As a consequence, men were quite comfortable looking inwardly and being reflective about their own physical and psychological experiences...
One of the most significant aspects of the Georgian era is the expansion of the British Empire across the globe and the development of trade/trade routes and the spread of cultures and ideas that accompanied it. Though the expansion of the British Empire began long before the Georgian Era (with Queen Elizabeth I in 1578) and did not end until long after it ended. Many of the political and economic developments of the Georgian Era had a very pivotal influence on the development of the empire and of global trade, and likewise, the development of British colonialism is intertwined with many of the cultural, ideological, political, and economic aspects of the Georgian Era in England.
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I'm not sure, regarding the word thing. I will investigate. Given Japan's ongoing war against the hikikomori, I suspect if there is a term for it it's more likely new slang. Fascinating concept though -- in a modern country founded on its groupthink principles and not disrupting the flow of things, how distant from the collective can one get before needing to find another?
Staying tuned.
Pondering the question.
Meantime maybe it's measured in nautical miles?
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Ah, of course. The most interesting discussion in the forum had to be the most off-topic discussion in the off-topic section. Why am I not surprised...
Anyway, I got curious so I did some digging within my humble means. Here's what I came up with:
English-Japanese translation of "lone wolf"
English-Japanese translation of "loner"
Japanese Wikipedia page of "lone wolf"
My conclusion:
The Japanese call them literally "lone wolf" ("ippiki ookami"), but they think English speakers call them "maverick". They're only half wrong.
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PS: I just realized you guys may have been referring to another term.
Fuck, all that work down the drain. FUCK.
I think I'll go cry in the corner punch some bricks.
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Ah, of course. The most interesting discussion in the forum had to be the most off-topic discussion in the off-topic section. Why am I not surprised...
Anyway, I got curious so I did some digging within my humble means. Here's what I came up with...
[Interesting stuff]
Curiousity is a delight.
Funnily enough, Maverick is new and American:
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maverick (n.)
1867, "calf or yearling found without an owner's brand," so called for Samuel A. Maverick (1803-1870), Texas cattle owner who was notoriously negligent in branding his calves.
All neat stock found running at large in this State, without a mother, and upon which there is neither mark nor brand, shall be deemed a maverick, and shall be sold to the highest bidder for cash, at such time and place, and under such rules and regulations, as the round-up commissioners of the district shall prescribe. [act to amend the General Statutes of the State of Colorado, approved April 8, 1885]
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Yep, the Japanese had a word for 'Nice Guy' long before we did...
Oh, I think wolves in sheep's clothing may be a manomyth.
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Monomyth, not manomyth.
I know because I had to look it up just now ("know" might be too strong a word for it).
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Posted byNemoJron Nov 8, 2018, 8:07:55 AM
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Yes, it is monomyth NemoJnr :)
But for the purposes of dodgy male-related wolf mythology "manomyth". It's a riff on a previous topic, too. But maybe your immunity to terrible puns needs working on XD
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Oh for sure, but Okuri Okami is *specifically* referring to sexual predators...
(yeah, I got it wrong, fixed. okaeri means to return or I have returned, okuri means escorting. mah bad.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okuri-inu
The Japanese expression 'okuri-ōkami', which refers to people who gain a person's good will whilst harbouring bad intentions, or a man who follows a woman, originates from these legends.
Well...
The wiki page was a great read - the sandal detail for the weasel, ha!
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PS kudos for 'manomyth'. Campbellungeudian.
Danke.
Campbellungeudian? Oh dear veering into neibelungenleid and kummerspeck territory.
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