Shared Mines and Sulphite Rebalance

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...The way we did this was was by having the amount of Sulphite increase drastically as you play higher-tier maps

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psycatz wrote:

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...The way we did this was was by having the amount of Sulphite increase drastically as you play higher-tier maps

Higher-tier maps doesnt NOT exist GGG if u keep them locked from dropping.... LAUL

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muzein wrote:

I think GGG is having an identity crisis with Delve.

Is Delve supposed to be another league mechanic which is tied into mapping, such as Abyssal Depths and Incursion temples? Or is it supposed to be an end-game alternative to mapping such as the Uber Labyrinth?


I get the impression the community wants delve to be an alternative to mapping. So when GGG comes out and says 'Hey, we're listening to the feedback and now you'll have to map even more to access Delve' I question if they listened to any feedback at all.


Let's look at Uber Lab:
- you need only to map enough to discover and complete the 6 dream trials in order to access Uber Lab.
- Access is account-wide and thus only needs to be unlocked once per league.
- You do not have to find an Offering to the Goddess on the character which will be running the lab.
- You can buy offerings from other players
- You don't need to map more to run more labs.

Delve access should work similar and have it truly be an alternative to mapping. GGG's upcoming changes make it sound like access to the mines will be tied behind Red Maps which aren't terribly sustainable... which is pretty much the death of Delve league to me. Maps are also quite expensive so even if you wanted to simply purchase maps in the same way a lab runner would purchase offerings; what you receive for the cost is terrible compared to the cost and reward for lab running.


Mapping used to be enjoyable for me. War of the Atlas changed that. It introduced new content gated behind mapping and now it's a chore I must perform in order to do the content I want to do. When I'm tired after a month of mapping, I simply quit the league and return 2-3 months later - And when I return, GGG throws me right back into the very thing I quit the game over (mapping fatigue). It's actually worse because not only do I START a league with mapping fatigue, but I also have to build up my atlas completion all over again which is pure cancer.


Delve: Something to briefly do after a TON of mapping.
-is that what the community is asking for, GGG?

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jrv209 wrote:

take a deep breath, turn off your PC, and go outside. you sound way too serious over a source of entertainment that you should enjoy.

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LvL99KampfKeks wrote:

I'm not sure if it's funny or scary that quite a few people complain here and ACTUALLY think that 24/7 mining would be a good thing.

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johnnyh2 wrote:

I don't understand anyone who thought that we would get to spend 100% (or 90%+) of our time in the Delve.

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Iznuts wrote:

you people have zero idea. all your whining and crying is cause you want free easy access to t16 content with zero investment or time put in.

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JoeShmo wrote:

This pretty much sums up my opinion of the state of the game, and delve.

And every single time, GGG has let down the players.
And all this is doing is creating more map fatigue, which is working against GGG's intent on improving player retention.

It's complete madness, and all these delve changes in the last 2 weeks are proof of that; GGG has no idea what they are doing, and they have no idea ( or initial care ) about what the players want / expect for new content.

This is just acting like what Blizzard did for years with WoW and Diablo 3 ....doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on design and mechanics that are already tired and done with. It doesn't even feel right, or matter, that GGG is providing "all this content" every league ..when it's the exact same treadmill with a different graphical overlay.

Do these companies never learn from the past?