[3.17] Hybrid's Molten Strike Jugg - Hold right click to TANK anything |MELT the Atlas|Divine Flesh|

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SohleKamm wrote:
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HybridBoy wrote:


standard or challenge league?


standard.


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darkspawnbr10 wrote:
The Pob it says on the build is outdated? Cause when i use it, it ask if i want to convert for 3.13.
Pob Fork


build stayed the same so i didnt update the POB, but i see that people have some problems with POB andpastebin so here is the "new" one:

https://pastebin.com/hBt34hPh


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fistoz wrote:
Hey :)

Why using Immortal Call over Molten Shell or Steelskin ?
Of course % reductions on a big life pool is nice, but not only does it removes endurance charges even for just a split-second, it also only lasts 2 seconds (not even increase duration support)..

Got some arguments on either guard skills ?


molten shell and steel skin only absorbs damage and not mitigating it, which is what we actually need against big hits.
for smaller hits we have big enough life pool and recovery.

steelskin can absorb 70% of damage taken upto 2200 damage and molten shell scales off armor, but we dont actually have enough armor in order to scale it to a meaningful level so we end up with a 'pool' of 2.5-3k and it ends up just like steelskin.

immortal call on the other hand mitigate incoming damage by a lot.
so its much better against big hits because as i said before, we have enough defense for smaller hits.
and even for small hits its still better.

having said that, you can always use whatever you feel like.



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Revlis183 wrote:
Can someone DM me the POB for this build? Or reply to this post with it?
I've wanted to give it a shot, but the website hasn't been working right for me the last 2 days.


this is the raw code:
Spoiler


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Last edited by HybridBoy on Jan 21, 2021, 2:27:53 AM
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HybridBoy wrote:
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fistoz wrote:
Hey :)

Why using Immortal Call over Molten Shell or Steelskin ?
Of course % reductions on a big life pool is nice, but not only does it removes endurance charges even for just a split-second, it also only lasts 2 seconds (not even increase duration support)..

Got some arguments on either guard skills ?


molten shell and steel skin only absorbs damage and not mitigating it, which is what we actually need against big hits.
for smaller hits we have big enough life pool and recovery.

steelskin can absorb 70% of damage taken upto 2200 damage and molten shell scales off armor, but we dont actually have enough armor in order to scale it to a meaningful level so we end up with a 'pool' of 2.5-3k and it ends up just like steelskin.

immortal call on the other hand mitigate incoming damage by a lot.
so its much better against big hits because as i said before, we have enough defense for smaller hits.
and even for small hits its still better.

having said that, you can always use whatever you feel like.

I see.
Sorry for noob question but to be sure.. Immortal Call doesn't mitigate the actual hit that activate it, it only works for subsequent hits, right ? A way to mitigate following hits after surviving with 10hp and regenerating under IC.
Harvest in a nutshell : https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2023/48/6/1701517918-poeh.jpg
Ultimatum : https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2023/48/6/1701517789-ultimatum-league.png
Expedition : https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2023/48/6/1701518028-poe-expedition-in-a-nutshell.png
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fistoz wrote:
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HybridBoy wrote:
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fistoz wrote:
Hey :)

Why using Immortal Call over Molten Shell or Steelskin ?
Of course % reductions on a big life pool is nice, but not only does it removes endurance charges even for just a split-second, it also only lasts 2 seconds (not even increase duration support)..

Got some arguments on either guard skills ?


molten shell and steel skin only absorbs damage and not mitigating it, which is what we actually need against big hits.
for smaller hits we have big enough life pool and recovery.

steelskin can absorb 70% of damage taken upto 2200 damage and molten shell scales off armor, but we dont actually have enough armor in order to scale it to a meaningful level so we end up with a 'pool' of 2.5-3k and it ends up just like steelskin.

immortal call on the other hand mitigate incoming damage by a lot.
so its much better against big hits because as i said before, we have enough defense for smaller hits.
and even for small hits its still better.

having said that, you can always use whatever you feel like.

I see.
Sorry for noob question but to be sure.. Immortal Call doesn't mitigate the actual hit that activate it, it only works for subsequent hits, right ? A way to mitigate following hits after surviving with 10hp and regenerating under IC.



ur leeching to full hp with rings and watchers eye in 0.5 sec



grabbed these for 4 c each at league start now i only need fire dmg leeched as life watchers
Last edited by SohleKamm on Jan 21, 2021, 1:07:49 PM
Yeah, both life regen/leech ofc.
My question was on whether IC does mitigate the hit that activate it through CWDT or only the next ones.
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fistoz wrote:
Yeah, both life regen/leech ofc.
My question was on whether IC does mitigate the hit that activate it through CWDT or only the next ones.


no, same for the other guard skills, since its activated by CWDT.
in order for immortal call to mitigate the big hit you need to manually activate it, but predicting when a big hit is going to happen and reacting to it isnt that easy.
if you think thats a good option for you, use vaal immortal call- this way the normal version will procc with CWDT and you can manually cast vaal IC.


to be honest though, unless the monsters have a nasty combination of modifiers on them, you would never get "one-shot" in maps if your build is complete.
same for map bosses, in my experience no boss can one-shot you, not even shaper's slam.

immortal call is actually very good in this league since you would be fighting multiple bosses at the same time.
so when one boss get a big hit on you the buff activates and protects you from incoming damage for a short duration until you get back to full health.

even tho you lose 5 charges when IC activates, you get them back quickly thanks to Unflinching ascendancy node.
Last edited by HybridBoy on Jan 21, 2021, 2:24:17 PM
Didn't know there was a Vaal IC... Oh well, seems like it's collector :p
Thanks for help !
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fistoz wrote:
Didn't know there was a Vaal IC... Oh well, seems like it's collector :p
Thanks for help !



right, sorry, forgot to mention its only available in STD :)

but you can do the same with vaal molten shell as far as i know.

personally i dont like to micro manage those things so i just use IC with CWDT.
I opened the POB tree, is there a levelling progression though or just level as we see fit?

Thanks.
I've been playing this build with long breaks since Betrayal league. I'm close to being completely happy with it (lvl 94 at the moment). I've been following this trade for sooo long...

So, i have a question now...

Finally got fortify as corruption on the sword and kicked out the gem. I already have Vitality and now I'm not sure what to use in the extra gem slot (where blood rage and ancestral protector are). Currently I'm using Enfeeble there because it makes sense as another layer of defense and i really like it because i've been using it for a long time (had Chernobog's Pillar in the setup for ages).
But I'm not sure if there's anything better than Enfeeble? Especially because i can't apply another curse and when I'm solo with a boss it doesn't help at all.

BTW - just kicked Sirus' butt yesterday without any issues. Failed to do it about 2 weeks ago because i had no idea what to do.
Also doing T16 maps like nothing. It only gets ugly when there are 2 very hard bosses or when there are some weird map modifiers.
Super noob question, I'm still leveling with this Build right now (lvl 54, 1/4 labs done) and it works super well and is super fun.

There is one thing im uncertain about, at which point "can" I play without Thief's Torment Ring without lacking Mana Reg. I already got a Cluster Jewel with Fuel of the Fight for Mana leech but I just tried it and it wasn't enough, do I just need to level more because more damage = more mana leech. Or is there something else on gear/skillpoints that is important for me to have enough mana?

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