trying to theorycraft around Disintegrator

Hello there !

I was looking for a good weapon 2H that deal hight physical damages for a new build, and suddenly I've found Disintegrator

Here : https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Disintegrator

I think that it can be possible to build around it, but I may need help putting the pieces together.

I need :
increased physical dammage
physical dammage reduction
life leech
(may be chaos dammage)

And it since I want to max my siphonning charges it should be my only unique (or the other unique have to be REALLY good).


Here is what I've come up with.



char & ascendy : scion trickster + slayer

This way I got endurence charges (reduce physica dammage taken) and life leech.
It comes out with culling strike, a nice synergie between trickster and disintegrator, frenzy charge and area of effect.



I play with 2H so I've got two 6L or one 6L and kaom heart. Kaom's heart is a huge advantage when you have 2H weapon, It's the reasonnable choice.
But I already have too much char that deal fire dammages and I've thougth of something silly that I like a lot.


Main skill : Leap Slam !
Of course that's the move skill too. I'll need a one target skill for boss but it's ok since I have a second 6L.
What should I put on leap slam ?

- Faster Attacks Support, must have.
- Melee Physical Damage Support look like a must.
- Increased Area of Effect Support, more people to hit.
- Endurance Charge on Melee Stun Support ? generate endurance charges and give me more dammage for each one
- Maim Support, more physical dammage
- Fortify Support ? increased dammage and more defense (sad fortify it doesn't mitigate disintegrator debuff)
- Damage on Full Life Support ? I'm not sure about this one since I'll lose life with the disintegrator. Does life leech + vaal pact keep me full life ?



Boss skill :

I don't really know, it should be a physical or chaos skill
I've thougth of vaal ground slam (+ conc) / sunder (+ cond) / double strike / Heavy Strike
Support gems depend of the skill chosen.
For what I see it could be full physical or go with chaos/poison, since my weapon and my ascendency deal chaos dammage.



other support gems :

- CWDT (low level) + immortal call + enfeeble + increased duration
- Summon Flame Golem (chaos looks good but I'm not sure I can afford that much int)
- Hatred
- Heral of ice



Tree :

Here is a tree I put together, I think I can do better.

https://poeplanner.com/AA0AAQkADRAAAIG-vPTGRQo11jGeplc64fJF_grYvbc-g8w8Lcau_TBqBGqlg18LYa9saPLwH6IA5FGXeQmWOQ5QR-8Ocqn3MuoYdqzPfqyqWfP46_PdaGW77ZHOns3ynG6X9768nxiR706TqIqzV1ReE5LQEuFAoHrvBS1Gt9NvhO-pJ5Bsh2qplITZR369NkMxTP9OKio4BLPAZjwF73wj028nmmohVdw9B3XAptrBdO3E9mVNvqefPi3SGjiQVT7xuUOTB8lnvJqbUcMzWhr8SxRNAecb-iXfpBk26Kcwrj5nmxRx2XyCB_JB0iGPYOCfBWYaVWEhdPEppbFbpjIDBBp6Al-kDGDeqLsAAAAAAA==


What do you think of it ?

Have you some advice ?

Thanks for reading,

Poum

I would go for crit if you want to use a staff. Which means you would need to get Serpent Stance and Shamans Dominion which is in the upper part of the tree. You would be better off putting a totem in your second six link chain. An Ancestral Warchief with that staff in a six link would be really strong. I'm using Earthquake with the Maurader in my staff build and it works good. I can clear out the Temple mobs nicely in Incursion league. This is assuming you want to use an attack not a spell.

But there are lots of builds you can do with that staff. Maybe you can switch from your Trickster ascendancy to the Templar Inquisitor and do elemental crit damage? Such as Ice Crash or Static Strike. I don't see where you're getting much damage in the tree you have. The Chaos buffs from Trickster won't give you that much because you have no chaos multipliers in your build. You are adding Chaos but not multiplying it. You also have a little bit of crit in your build but not much, which is never a good spot to be in.

I like the idea although I haven't seen a disintegrator melee build before. I think its because there are other high dps 2h without the downside. The huge pull for disintegrator for spell casters is that the +phys spell damage is almost unrivaled.

I like weird and unique builds so dont take this as discouragement, but you would go further with a normal high end 2h weapon that will cost less because its not an endgame spellcaster weapon.

That being said, comments
-Life is a little low for a melee build like this.
-You are on the wrong side of tree for Chaos, I'd ignore that and go elemental unless you REALLy want to rework the tree.
-MS with both threshold jewels is a very high dps single target skill
-Lots of leech here, but you could replace it with a blood rage and still keep some key leech on the tree by duelist
-VP with disintegrator is dangerous, no regen but degen? I know, slayer can help fix that. But it seems iffy. Actually I'd try it both ways and see how each feels.

So, flat out, you will be stronger if you drop that staff for a more 'normal' melee weapon, but if you want to keep it, I'd throw in more life, some elemental damage, trade some 2h nodes, and end up with

https://poeplanner.com/AA0AAQ8ADRAAAIS-vPTGRQo11jGeplc64fJF_grYvbc-g8w8Lcaug18LYa9saPLwH6IA5FGXeQmWOQ5QR-8Ocql2rM9-rKpZ814TktAS4UCgeu8FLUa302-E76knkGyHaqmUhNlHfr02QzFM_04qBLPAZjwF73wj028nmmohVdw9B3XAptrBdO3E9mVNvqefPi3SGjiQVT7xuUOTB8lnvJqbUcMzWhquPmebj2DgnwVmFCBfP8EEeWipbnfjAdzrCYVS2WGtjaLqW68NjYd2Sn1XDZZskc7SIfJBggf2SMRYPfxYYzWS_o9N4yz7iiInIGeg458nLzrYMol35WvZNI6GO7FbpjIDBBp6Al-kDGDeqLsAAAAAAA==

Thanks for your answers.

I find disintegrator while lookink for a good 2H physical weapon.

Disintegrator is one of the only two weapons with over 600 pDPS sell in incursion (starforge is first of course). And this stat doesn't take account of the charges. So it's actually the best physical staff out there.

So I have planned my build to go full physical (not chaos, I have asked if I should do it, but it seems like a bad idea with your answers.).


Warchief totem is a good idea for a single target DPS, I like it.


Since the staff is full physical with a little chaos dammage I don't understand. Why going elemental ? I'm not saying it's a bad idea, I just don't know what to use that make it better than physical dammage.


I'll defintly get more life, you're right and thanks for the new tree, it looks good.

Elemental only because many attacks are elemental conversion. So if you use a skill like Molten Strike, it converts some of that large physical damage to elemental, which can again be boosted wtih +elemental damage to attack skills.

Many people use this mechanic to increase dps. Things like elementalist blade vortex convert 100% of a physical spell damage to elemental to boost it.

If you look at the nodes near templar and some near duelist, its one way to increase dps.

Its by no means necessary, you can go 100% physical (with say, sunder or heavy strike), but its an efficient way to boost dps.

Let me know how the build goes, I love new ideas.

I mentioned elemental because you want to use the Scion. If you're looking for a late game boss killer for Shaper and Elder then you'll want critical strike. So you can get the Inquisitor ascendancy which requires elemental damage. But you don't have to, if you want physical then you can probably make it work with the Juggernaut ascendancy.

If you really wanted to make use out of that chaos mod on the staff, maybe you could do a triple conversion. You can go from physical to lightning to chaos, you'd have to find enough items to do the conversions. I say lightning because lightning and chaos buffs are in the upper right part of the tree. But I haven't tried it, I am just theorizing.

I think I'll try go for physical dammage at first.

Using leap slam (if it deal enought dammage to blow monsters) or sunder for multiple target and use a warchief totem for single target.

I've try to build a tree for this stuff.
Maximizing :
- life
- crit
- endurance charges
- physical dammage
- area (since all my planned skill are area damage)

https://poeplanner.com/AA0AAQkADRAAAIG-vPTGRQo11jGepldN4_6PNZLYvTrh8kX-Crc-g8w8LYNfxq79MGoEaqULYa9saPJr2TSOhjvwH6IABLPAZjwF73xFRzLR6-6nCNgkNsWD80ShrhKPRl6lE3FYrkWO-4tZ8xo4kFWfPi3Srj5nm-RRl3kJljkOcg-Ub2ZUUEfvDhQgXz92rK2Nz34-8blDkwfJZ7yam1G77ZHOaGXZfIIH8kGezfKcbpf3vtIhVw2WbPOb2WEnL5rgRZ1TUvZIjM89_Fhjxtj60hZv42qFUusJHNyPGiSqNulmnh0UuR2nn5-jAdyE2Ud-vTZlTb6nAMGEU-_97pACX6QMYN6ou0Ql930AAAAAAA==

This one need to take down uber lab in order to get Art of Gladiator.
I'll watch some sunder build and warchief totem build to see how I could maximize those skills.

I only play this char with a friend (who's playing the game for the first time) and we started yesterday, so It'll take long before I finish the story with it.

If it's his first time, he probably won't be making it to the late game bosses. You guys would probably be better off doing some cheap league starter builds and see if you can make it to maps.

You still don't have enough crit in your tree to make it worthwhile over a Resolute Technique build. You can look at my Marauder character if you want, name = MetalHealth. I have Disemboweling and Eagle Eye, that gives me 53% crit chance and 410% crit multiplier. So with a Diamond Flask that gives me just over 75% crit chance which is where you want to be with a crit build.

I'd suggest getting the Berserker ascendancy and getting Resolute Technique to get you started. If you can make it past a level 85, which you probably won't if you're playing with a first timer, then switch everything around to a crit build.

No, the build is for me not my friend.




If you think that I need more crit i'll make two tree.
One below 80 using resolute technique with only 6 ascendency point (slayer / path of duelist).

And one max lvl taking all the crit in the world with the ascedency assassin.

https://poeplanner.com/AA0AARcADRAAAIi-vPTGRQo11jGepldN4zWS2L064fJF_gq3PoPMPC2DX8au_TBqBGqlC2GvbGjya9k0joY78B-iAASzwGY8Be98RUcy0evupwjYJDbFg_NEoa4Sj0ZepRNxWK5FjvuLWfMaOJBVnz4t0q4-Z5vkUZd5CZY5DnIPlG9mVFBH7w4UIF8_dqytjc9-PvG5Q5MHyWe8mptRu-2Rzmhl2XyCB_JB0iFXDZZs85vZYScvmuBFnVNS9kiMzz38WGPG2PrSFm_jaoVS6wkc3I8aJKo26WaeHRQB3ITZR369NmVNvqefo6efuR2plIdqkGypJ4TvouoS4eoY9zKSfT0-5c8CX6QMYN6ou0Ql932xW6YyAwSocgAAAAAA

So I swith to crit at lvl 80.

For unqiue I'll take
I'll take Impresence Onyx Amulet, the vulnerability version.

Rest of the gear will be shaper/elder with life + res + armour + crit + dammage.

I'll use (in priority order) :
leap slam + faster attack + Melee physical dammage + endurance charge on stun + Maim + increased area of effect

If it doesn't deal enought dammage for pack mob :
sunder + Melee Physical Damage + Multistrike + endurance charge on stun + Maim + increased area of effect

Single target :
warchief + Melee Physical Damage + Brutality + Ruthless + Maim + Concentrated Effect

You're writing too much. Disintegrator is a top tier weapon and there are builds for it. Just check some of them