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鬼殺し wrote:

Hey, another unwilling victim of miscegenation between East and...something else! Nice. :)

Thanks for the post. I don't think it'll make jack difference, because in the end the majority of people here only care about their gaming experience and that's entirely their right. They'll happily support/pay for a game ultimately owned way, way up the chain by the same Lovecraftian poly-tentacled Great Old One that might just, yknow, dabble in social engineering and Orwellian practices, BUT NONE OF THAT WILL EVER AFFECT ME AND MY EXALTS SO FUCKING STOP PANICKING OKAY.

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鬼殺し wrote:

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Ukanta wrote:

It's funny how western world take on privacy. In China, everyone knows their data is with the government, they are monitoring by the government. In western world, people think their data is private and secure in fact it isn't. Facebook is such a great example.

There is a middle ground between the two. I was thinking about this recently when we had a natural disaster in our area. Some friends of mine were in the path of the fire and they received text messages from emergency services telling them to be prepared. At no point did they give their private mobile numbers to emergency services -- very likely, their phone companies forwarded the relevant numbers to the emergency services. It's probably some very fine print in the contract.

In a society that values privacy and individual rights above all else, that life-saving message would have technically been frowned upon. How dare the phone company pass on my number like that!?

I'm under no illusion that we're somehow individual units totally cut off from the larger machine, but for now I'll naively believe that whatever monitoring is going on, it's largely benign and possibly even beneficial. For now.

The few times I've found myself suffering the effects of information sharing I brought them down on myself: clicking an ad link thoughtlessly, donating to a charity over the phone who then of course put my name and number on a damn fishing list for other similar causes.

...Which is all to say, we've never had real 100% privacy, but I believe we have enough personal agency to remain private citizens but at the same time 'connected' enough should the need to be connected arises.

Re: Facebook -- FBP does wonders.

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Ukanta wrote:

It's funny how western world take on privacy. In China, everyone knows their data is with the government, they are monitoring by the government. In western world, people think their data is private and secure in fact it isn't. Facebook is such a great example.

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JNF wrote:

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Ukanta wrote:

It's funny how western world take on privacy. In China, everyone knows their data is with the government, they are monitoring by the government. In western world, people think their data is private and secure in fact it isn't. Facebook is such a great example.

In the western world, you can practice your religion openly without fear of persecution or death. Good luck with that in China.

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notindieanymore wrote:

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JNF wrote:

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Ukanta wrote:

It's funny how western world take on privacy. In China, everyone knows their data is with the government, they are monitoring by the government. In western world, people think their data is private and secure in fact it isn't. Facebook is such a great example.

In the western world, you can practice your religion openly without fear of persecution or death. Good luck with that in China.

Do not derail my thread with Western vs East bullshit, what are you? 11 years old?

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JNF wrote:

In the western world, you can practice your religion openly without fear of persecution or death. Good luck with that in China.

Do not derail my thread with Western vs East bullshit, what are you? 11 years old?

Sorry that I 'derailed' your thread (in a public forum) with facts?

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notindieanymore wrote:

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JNF wrote:

In the western world, you can practice your religion openly without fear of persecution or death. Good luck with that in China.

Do not derail my thread with Western vs East bullshit, what are you? 11 years old?

Sorry that I 'derailed' your thread (in a public forum) with facts?

You do not understand... why don't you create a thread where you can discuss that specific topic instead? That is all I am asking for. The topic of this thread was the mischievous things Tencent has done and keeps doing.