GGG, please take a look at warcries with the 3.3 skill tweaks

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FederalX wrote:

As it is right now, they are difficult to use. I've never really paid much attention to them, as I hadn't made any characters requiring their use. However, trying to make a character based upon them has revealed just how clunky these skills feel to use. To start with, requiring you to run directly into a large pack of creatures to get any kind of sizable benefit from them makes them incredibly dangerous to use effectively. They require a casting animation which cannot be reduced whatsoever, and cannot be supported by many support gems. Trying to include them in your build as they are now results in a lot of frustration, resulting in a lot of folks dropping them altogether. Because of these issues, I've come up with a few things that could be done to improve these under-utilized skills, making them more fluid and easier to use:

* Have them increase their area of effect as they level up, doubling in size at level 20

* Allow them to be supported by either faster casting/faster attack gems, include a new support gem to increase their cast speed, or allow them to be cast while you're using another action (no animation)

* Allow them to be triggered by Cast when X gems, like they used to be able to before they were classified as Warcries

* A Skill Effect support gem would be a huge benefit to them, allowing players to use these skills and feel like they're a benefit rather than a liability.

* Some of the above benefits could be applied via a unique item, forcing players to invest in an item to truly specialize in these unique buffs

Thanks for giving us this wonderful game, I look forward to supporting you in the future!

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SuicideAll wrote:

Warcries need to be auto casting. Or deleted.

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I just wish we could cast them in motion. That would be a massive QOL and would make some really cool synergies with berserker.

good post.

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universal777 wrote:

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FederalX wrote:

As it is right now, they are difficult to use. I've never really paid much attention to them, as I hadn't made any characters requiring their use. However, trying to make a character based upon them has revealed just how clunky these skills feel to use. To start with, requiring you to run directly into a large pack of creatures to get any kind of sizable benefit from them makes them incredibly dangerous to use effectively. They require a casting animation which cannot be reduced whatsoever, and cannot be supported by many support gems. Trying to include them in your build as they are now results in a lot of frustration, resulting in a lot of folks dropping them altogether. Because of these issues, I've come up with a few things that could be done to improve these under-utilized skills, making them more fluid and easier to use:

* Have them increase their area of effect as they level up, doubling in size at level 20

* Allow them to be supported by either faster casting/faster attack gems, include a new support gem to increase their cast speed, or allow them to be cast while you're using another action (no animation)

* Allow them to be triggered by Cast when X gems, like they used to be able to before they were classified as Warcries

* A Skill Effect support gem would be a huge benefit to them, allowing players to use these skills and feel like they're a benefit rather than a liability.

* Some of the above benefits could be applied via a unique item, forcing players to invest in an item to truly specialize in these unique buffs

Thanks for giving us this wonderful game, I look forward to supporting you in the future!

In my opinion, they already add huge a huge bonus. Esp. if you use the one that explodes monsters when you kill them. Link it with inc aoe and concentrated effect and it does significant aoe damage, and will help you clear that much faster. I liked to use it on 2h builds. Cast it then my aoe from glacial hammer and that warcry just rekts everything.