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Here's what Schiff really said.
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“My colleagues might think it’s OK that the Russians offered dirt on the Democratic candidate for president as part of what’s described as the Russian government’s effort to help the Trump campaign. You might think that’s OK.
“My colleagues might think it’s OK that when that was offered to the son of the president, who had a pivotal role in the campaign, that the president’s son did not call the FBI; he did not adamantly refuse that foreign help – no, instead that son said that he would ‘love’ the help with the Russians.
“You might think it’s OK that he took that meeting. You might think it’s OK that Paul Manafort, the campaign chair, someone with great experience running campaigns, also took that meeting. You might think it’s OK that the president’s son-in-law also took that meeting. You might think it’s OK that they concealed it from the public. You might think it’s OK that their only disappointment after that meeting was that the dirt they received on Hillary Clinton wasn’t better. You might think that’s OK.
“You might think it’s OK that when it was discovered, a year later, that they then lied about that meeting and said that it was about adoptions. You might think that it’s OK that it was reported that the president helped dictate that lie. You might think that’s OK. I don’t.
“You might think it’s OK that the campaign chairman of a presidential campaign would offer information about that campaign to a Russian oligarch in exchange for money or debt forgiveness. You might think that’s OK, I don’t.
“You might think it’s OK that that campaign chairman offered polling data to someone linked to Russian intelligence. I don’t think that’s OK.
“You might think it’s OK that the president himself called on Russia to hack his opponent’s emails, if they were listening. You might think it’s OK that later that day, in fact, the Russians attempted to hack a server affiliated with that campaign. I don’t think that’s OK.
“You might think it’s OK that the president’s son-in-law sought to establish a secret back channel of communication with the Russians through a Russian diplomatic facility. I don’t think that’s OK.
“You might think it’s OK that an associate of the president made direct contact with the GRU through Guccifer 2.0 and WikiLeaks, that is considered a hostile intelligence agency. You might think it’s OK that a senior campaign official was instructed to reach that associate and find out what that hostile intelligence agency had to say in terms of dirt on his opponent.
“You might think it’s OK that the national security adviser designate secretly conferred with the Russian ambassador about undermining U.S. sanctions, and you might think it’s OK that he lied about it to the FBI.
“You might say that’s all OK, that’s just what you need to do to win. But I don’t think it’s OK. I don’t think it’s OK. I think it’s immoral, I think it’s unethical, I think it’s unpatriotic and, yes, I think it’s corrupt – and evidence of collusion.”
“Now I have always said that the question of whether this amounts to proof of conspiracy was another matter. Whether the special counsel could prove beyond a reasonable doubt the proof of that crime would be up to the special counsel, and I would accept his decision, and I do. He’s a good and honorable man, and he is a good prosecutor.
“But I do not think that conduct, criminal or not, is OK. And the day we do think that’s OK is the day we will look back and say that is the day that America lost its way.”
“And I will tell you one more thing that is apropos of the hearing today: I don’t think it’s OK that during a presidential campaign Mr. Trump sought the Kremlin’s help to consummate a real estate deal in Moscow that would make him a fortune – according to the special counsel, hundreds of millions of dollars. I don’t think it’s OK to conceal it from the public. I don’t think it’s OK that he advocated a new and more favorable policy towards the Russians even as he was seeking the Russians’ help, the Kremlin’s help to make money. I don’t think it’s OK that his attorney lied to our committee. There is a different word for that than collusion, and it’s called ‘compromise.’
“And that is the subject of our hearing today.”
Just the straight facts, the facts that point to corruption and compromise.
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Posted byTurtledoveon Mar 31, 2019, 4:27:17 PM
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When you have a report saying that Trump isn't a traitor to his country but democrats still refuse it even though they value the lives of non Americans more than Americans. While Clinton's e-mails that gave away the position of us troops never get brought up ever again... Seriously that isn't treason?
This is Honk honk clown world.
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Posted byHornybullon Apr 1, 2019, 2:11:46 AM
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When you have a report saying that Trump isn't a traitor to his country but democrats still refuse it even though they value the lives of non Americans more than Americans. While Clinton's e-mails that gave away the position of us troops never get brought up ever again... Seriously that isn't treason?
This is Honk honk clown world.
There's a big difference between being able to prove it in court vs what happened. I'm not gonna go further until the report is published.
As for Clinton, it's not like she gave the position away, the emails got compromised. It's very different. Was there negligence? Yes. But it's unreasonable to believe that, if the information was taken on site as suggested, that it would have made a difference if it was her personal server or not.
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Posted byfaerwinon Apr 1, 2019, 2:24:33 AMAlpha Member
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I'm almost eager at this point to do a pro-choice vs pro-life discussion with you at this point.
It's hard to imagine the twist's you will have to make after going true such a defense of human rights and the liberty and sanctity of life.
Get on board turtle we will go places you can't visualize yet!
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Get on board turtle,
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Posted byDalaiLamaon Apr 1, 2019, 8:16:21 AM
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Your view that those news sources are conspiracy sites is wacko.
These news sources are accepted by the vast majority of people as valid news sites.
I wouldn't say vast majority. I would say the majority of people viewed them as legitimate news sites (past tense). Now, people aren't quite so certain.
They hawked distorted news they knew to be false so many times that a very sizeable portion of the public now sees them as conspirators with the democrats in the effort to weaken president Trump.
Some, like CNN harped on "muh Russian Collusion" so much, with so little proof and logic that they are worse than Flat Earth enthusiasts.
Equating size or distribution with accuracy is like saying the tallest or heaviest person on Earth must be the smartest.
CNN, NYT and the rest essentially promised the world that Trump was guilty of collusion with Russia.
Mueller essentially told the world:
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Posted byDalaiLamaon Apr 1, 2019, 8:35:14 AM
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Your view that those news sources are conspiracy sites is wacko.
These news sources are accepted by the vast majority of people as valid news sites.
I wouldn't say vast majority. I would say the majority of people viewed them as legitimate news sites (past tense). Now, people aren't quite so certain.
They hawked distorted news they knew to be false so many times that a very sizeable portion of the public now sees them as conspirators with the democrats in the effort to weaken president Trump.
Some, like CNN harped on "muh Russian Collusion" so much, with so little proof and logic that they are worse than Flat Earth enthusiasts.
Equating size or distribution with accuracy is like saying the tallest or heaviest person on Earth must be the smartest.
CNN, NYT and the rest essentially promised the world that Trump was guilty of collusion with Russia.
Mueller essentially told the world:
Lies loosely couched in a couple of weasel words. These lies have been feed to you by Trump the pathological liar. It is an absurd exaggeration to say those news sources promised the world that Trump was guilty of collusion, just not true. This is just a fantasy on the right.
The Wall Street Journal is a very conservative news source. They don't pander to Trump lies like many fox news hosts except in their opinion page but they have always been politically conservative. They just keep their political opinions restricted to their editorial pages.
There is much public evidence for both collusion and obstruction. Mueller could not find sufficient evidence to prove conspiracy. Fine for conspiracy, as for much else we have to wait for the report to be made public to know. What is obvious though, the President was dishonest and unpatriotic how he has handled these affairs.
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Posted byTurtledoveon Apr 1, 2019, 12:50:03 PM
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What's the penalty for falsely accusing the president of treason? Is it death or exile? I remember seeing something very severe and I hope that each asshole spewing this "ridiculous bullshit" recieves the appropriate punishment. Maybe holding organizations that lie accountable will make sure they don't spew"ridiculous bullshit".
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Posted byHornybullon Apr 1, 2019, 1:07:19 PM
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What's the penalty for falsely accusing the president of treason? Is it death or exile?
The penalty is far worse. Under
U.S. Code Title 18. CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE Part I. CRIMES Chapter 47. FRAUD AND FALSE STATEMENTS
18 U.S. Code CHAPTER 47— FRAUD AND FALSE STATEMENTS
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§ 1337. Fraudulent Statements or entries generally against a seated president
(a) Whoever knowingly executes, or attempts to execute, any scheme or artifice with the intent—
(1) to falsely accuse the sitting United States president; or
(2) to obtain money or property by means of false or fraudulent accusations, representations, or promises
shall, subject to the applicability of subsection (b) of this section, be forced to play single target melee, or be disallowed movement skills, or both for 180 days.
(b) The fine imposed for an offense under this section may exceed the maximum otherwise provided by law, if such fine does not exceed 9,000 fish and—
(1) the gross loss to the rare meme economy or the gross gain to a defendant is three fiddy; or
(2) the offense involves a conscious or reckless deliverance of seriously fake news.
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Posted byDalaiLamaon Apr 1, 2019, 7:28:40 PM
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Dalai comming in with the bling bling to brighten everybody's day.
Buddha satirica, the one that thrives in comedic adversity.
Peace,
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Posted byBoemon Apr 1, 2019, 7:35:27 PMOn Probation
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Dalai comming in with the bling bling to brighten everybody's day.
Buddha satirica, the one that thrives in comedic adversity.
Peace,
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Don't be foolish, we are only letting in the good scholars with sufficient degree's and the young capable workers because we are social and progressive.
People frowned upon the practice of bloodletting as a barbaric act, but apparently when you drain the life blood of a nation everybody applauds in unison under the banner of socialism.
Peace,
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Posted byBoemon Apr 2, 2019, 6:54:27 AMOn Probation
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