I'm sorry but...why is there reflect again?

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adghar wrote:

The following post got eaten by the server shortly before they went down for the announcement, so have an extra-delayed response:

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Stealthe wrote:

lol.Your using Hitless Sword which hits you with 100 physical thorns damage for every enemy you hit and then you have a helm that increases physical damage by almost 50%.

He was using Terminus Est when thread originally started.

Of significant note is that at 16,000 armour, each "hits you with 100 physical damage" turns into:

pdr%fromarmour = 16000 / (16000+1000) = capped at 90% PDR, which means each hit deals a whopping 10 damage that is then increased by 43%, and presumably if he has Fortify on then reduced by 20%... leading to a "massive" 12 damage taken for each hit that he deals.

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Stealthe wrote:

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bananapanama1 wrote:

Currently playing 10 days SC Turmoil, character is EstWielder, a Juggernaut, wearing Abysuss.

I'm well aware of methods to mitigate reflect damage. Had around 5k5 hp (should be much more), took Soul of Yugul, Basalt flask, endurance charges (6) and 25k armour buffed. And guess what, instant death from a single reflect mob in Esh domain, monster level 70.

What else do I do, really. Put in Fortify and do no damage? Sacrifice a ring slot for Sybil?
Does a single item, like Abysuss, which has been nerfed pretty heavily, require every single reflect mitigation out there in order to make it work? How about we just remove Abyssus completely?

I think that reflect is intended to make the players invest more on defense, play with a slower pace and prevent glass cannon builds that will obliterate everything too fast. If I invest more on defense at this point I don't think I can tackle end game.

Or is it Slayer's Headsman and the Brassdome the only choices left for such a build? Or maybe, when it comes to Juggernaut, lets just play Righteous Fire/ Resolute Technique builds and be the only ones who play the game in its actual intended slow pace.

lol.Your using Hitless Sword which hits you with 100 physical thorns damage for every enemy you hit and then you have a helm that increases physical damage by almost 50%.You dont have no block chance to and little armor to help mitigate physical damage.It's basically a suicide setup from the start.And then add in reflected physical damage and well yeah you have successfully done all you can to ensure your taking as much physical damage as possible while getting as much dps as possible to reflect as much physical damage back to you as possible.Can't imagine why your dying to reflected physical damage.

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crystalwitch wrote:

Hiya bananapanama1.

I don't know if you're still looking for help with damage reflection, but previously I've had a couple of ways of dealing with it.

First off, it was having an alternate second skill that I could use. For example on my frostbolt templar I had a 4-link totem that I was using as an additional caster which also worked to handle reflection. I recast it when it killed itself and it worked well enough.
It felt a bit clumsy for my templar but you should do well enough using the ancestral warchief totem you have.

Alternatively, on another character I was switching out one of my rings for Sibyl's Lament and using Soul of Yugul to handle damage reflection.
Although that was for when the whole map had damage reflection, it'll still help you out with reflect rares.

One other option is swapping one of your supports for a Physical to Lightning support gem.
Though I know of one other player it didn't work for, they had a significantly worse build than you when it comes to reflect mitigation.

Oh, come to think of it you could even swap a support gem from your main attack for the fortify gem in your movement skill.

As a more extreme option, you could swap the Unrelenting node from your ascendancy for Unyielding, since that should be an extra 5% reduced damage from hits while you've got fortify. Maybe even respec into the Rampart cluster for a bit of extra fortify effect and armour.

Honestly though, Abyssus is a sucker for punishment when it comes to damage reflection.
In your shoes I'd have Sibyl's Lament and Soul of Yugul on 100% of the time.